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Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:20 am to VolNavy98
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:20 am to VolNavy98
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UT had 21st downs. Meaning we moved the ball on you. Time of possession was 29 minutes to 31 minutes. UT over threw Bru and Hyatt for Td’s. UT had everything went wrong and UGA had everything go right. There was 4 plays that flipped that game. We will be fine at neutral site.
Who was the touchdown pass thrown to that got picked off by Ringo?
Bc that throw was on the money and the receiver got beat to the ball by a better athlete.
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:33 am to VolNavy98
quote:Yes, by design. TN's bread and butter this season has been a good running game setting up the big play ability through the air. You guys were running the ball about 60% of the time to set up the other 40%.
UT had 21st downs. Meaning we moved the ball on you.
Our defense conceded a few yards per play in order to prevent the quick strikes, and then we held you to FGs or less with the pressure. Letting you "move the ball" was the game plan, so long as you didn't move it 30+ yards at a time.
quote:Yes, you had to have long drives because we weren't giving you the quick strikes. You were kept out of the end zone for 3+ quarters. That means more than TOP.
Time of possession was 29 minutes to 31 minutes.
quote:Pressure caused the overthrows. Think about the Bama game for comparison. Hooker was able to hit his shots more consistently because there wasn't hardly any pressure on him. We were bringing pressure all game, and that interrupted timing and accuracy, leading to the overthrows. It wasn't just Hooker having an "off" day, as if he was the only difference between his play against us versus his play against other teams. He was pressured and his throws were forced.
UT over threw Bru and Hyatt for Td’s.
quote:Not quite. Outside of the obvious false starts due to the crowd noise, most of the penalties and calls went TNs way. There were multiple drives that were extended for TN due to penalties. Penalties are part of the game, so whatever, but it was actually a lot worse for TN than even the box score says. And that's not to mention that bogus call that prevented a safety.
UT had everything went wrong and UGA had everything go right.
We were also tied with turnovers (2 a piece), so it's not like you made a lot of extra mistakes with the ball compared to UGA.
The game wasn't a matter of "luck", where UGA just had everything bounce our way. It was a physical beat down. Our offense moved seemingly at will against your defense in the first half (before the rains came through), and our defense wasn't giving you your usual opportunities for quick strikes. The pressure was on Hooker and that threw him off. He was contained in the pocket, and our secondary was getting physical with your receivers, keeping them from creating a lot of space. Everyone who knew what they were watching saw a dominant performance, not simply an "off day" for TN.
quote:This game wasn't a difference of 4 plays. This was a clinic in how to shut down your up-tempo, spread offense. Our defense executed nearly flawlessly, doing what it had to do to shut you down: it had to be physical with the receivers and keep up with them to prevent them from getting space; it needed to get consistent pressure on Hooker; it needed to disrupt the timing and "schedule" of your offense, getting you in 3rd and longs (TN was over 50% conversion on 3rd downs entering the game and was only 2-14 against us); and most importantly, we had to shut down your run game (as was said, 60% of your offense is the run). We did all these things very, very well, and the end result was an impotent offensive performance.
There was 4 plays that flipped that game.
quote:I've watched a lot of football. Nothing that I saw on Saturday gives me confidence that the result would be different on a neutral site. Yes, the noise was beneficial to UGA in costing TN some yards, but your offense was defended against exactly as it needed to be in order to shut you down, and our offense was doing what it needed to in order to light you up. It was 21-3 in the blink of an eye, and your offense wasn't able to score a TD until 4 minutes left in the game. The scoreboard showed a 2-TD difference between the teams, but watching the game showed utter domination.
We will be fine at neutral site.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:05 am to SaturdayNAthens
I watched the same game. That punt for 75 yards changed the game at that point. Yes UGA DL/OL was better than our OL/DL. I debating that. What I am saying is UT had its chances and didn’t capitalize. If we hit the basic plays to Bru and Hyatt you can add another 14 points. We was 3rd and 2 on the 10 yard line and consecutive false start penalties moved us to 3rd and 12 which led to FG. We was in red zone 4 times and got 1TD. We want UGA at neutral site where it don’t have home field advantage.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:09 am to Griffindawg
That was Tillman and a great play by Ringo. That ball shouldn’t have never been forced anyways but non the less great play. I’m talking about where Hyatt and Bru both had the DB’s beat and hooker wasn’t even close. He connects in those 2 then it’s a different all game. You can’t be in the redzone 4 times and only score 1 TD and expect to beat UGA. We had like 7 false start or illegal formation penalties. That was caused by your fans and atmosphere. You won’t have that same advantage in January in California. Not saying you still wouldn’t win, but the atmosphere will most definitely not be the same as it was in Athens.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:10 am to FooManChoo
I’m 2017 how bad did you lose to Auburn on the road? It was 40-17. You was totally dominated. Then you go to neutral site and win 28-7. It does make a difference rather you want to admit it. But yet in 2017 you still made it to the finals. Change the venues and Tennessee doesn’t have to deal with the elements as much just like you didn’t have to deal with the elements of Jordan Hare again.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:20 pm to VolNavy98
quote:We actually got out to the lead in 2017 against Auburn. The crowd wasn't the issue with Auburn, either. They had a good game plan against our offense and started executing on it fairly early, and we shot ourselves in the foot time and time again, with multiple terrible (and costly) turnovers and penalties that put us behind the 8-ball. On top of that, Kerryon Johnson was a one-man wrecking ball against us, combining for over 200 yards against us.
I’m 2017 how bad did you lose to Auburn on the road? It was 40-17. You was totally dominated. Then you go to neutral site and win 28-7. It does make a difference rather you want to admit it. But yet in 2017 you still made it to the finals. Change the venues and Tennessee doesn’t have to deal with the elements as much just like you didn’t have to deal with the elements of Jordan Hare again.
The re-match was different for a few different reasons, mostly in that we played clean football that didn't set up Auburn for easy scores, and we were able to take advantage of an injured Kerryon Johnson who was over-used and abused by the coaching staff. He wasn't nearly as effective, which made all the difference in their offensive production, and we were more disciplined compared to the previous game, which allowed us to sustain drives and score points. We also had some key defensive and special teams plays that changed the momentum for us.
We didn't really scheme anything differently, though. It was all about execution. We didn't execute in the first game and we did in the second, and we benefited from Auburn's best player not being fully healthy.
That's a far cry from what happened this past Saturday. You guys didn't shoot yourselves in the feet with poor execution. You had several penalties for false starts due to the crowd noise, and some of those hurt you more than others, but even when that wasn't a factor, your offense simply couldn't do to our defense what you had done to other defenses, because we had better athletes and a better game plan. It was complete domination on both sides of the ball.
If you disagree, please tell me what you expect that TN would do differently that would have changed made the game a more even contest or how the roles would have been reversed (TN dominating UGA). Crowd noise wasn't a factor with your defense, and crowd noise didn't impact Hooker's throws and runs after the ball was snapped. From my perspective, you would have to change your entire offensive scheme to throw off our defense, because we had you figured out. And, you would have to have more talented athletes that could beat ours. Otherwise, I don't see why the outcome of a rematch would be much different (other than we'd score more points if we were out of the rain).
Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:38 pm to Dawgfanman
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You can and likely will get jumped by a 1 loss conf champ if you are 4 going into conf champ weekend. You’ll be home and top teams will play and provide more evidence to support their teams.
Vols have sucked so bad so long, he has no damn clue how it works
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:47 pm to VolNavy98
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Yes just like Bama in 2017 right? UT is 3-1 right now against teams in top 25. 2-1 against teams in top 15. No one else can say they have played that quality of a schedule. Strength of Schedule is one of the things used by the committee when ranking teams. And as of right now UT schedule helps them a lot right now.
You completely missed the point.
Let's use 2017 as the example.
Alabama was 5th place in the 2nd to last playoff poll.
In the last poll, they took the last playoff spot over:
2 loss Big X champ Ohio State
2 loss Pac X champ USC
The top spot was 1 loss ACC champ Clemson.
2nd top spot was 1 loss BigXii champ Oklahoma.
3rd top spot was 1 loss SEC Champ Georgia.
Wisconsin was the BigXii championship game loser and finished at 12-1.
None of their 12 wins were ranked in any top 25 poll. If they had 2 ranked wins, they would have probably kept Bama out.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:10 pm to VolNavy98
Grammar matters. Whether it does or not down in the meth-holler makes no difference here, Jesse-Ray.
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