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re: 1st team SEC QB?

Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:26 pm to
1: Dak
2: Marshall
3: Wallace/Sims
F: Dobbs?
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
15816 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:28 pm to
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SummerOfGeorge


Thank you, sir. Sims should be 1st team with Dak 2nd and Bo 3rd. Bo would have been so good with a decent OL.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70841 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

1: Dak 2: Marshall 3: Wallace/Sims


This would be my list
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Give it to him just because of his hair........and hairstylist.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Dak has 3,000 passing 27 Tds and 940 rushing and 13 Tds.



Exactly.

He won't be top 3 in Heisman votes, but I feel like the beginning of the season will be enough to get him an invite.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:32 pm to
I'd probably go

1. Dak
2. Sims
3. Marshall
Freshman : Dobbs

But I could see Sims or Dak #1, and really any of them or Wallace in 2-3. I think it would be a travesty if Sims wasn't anywhere on the Top 3.

Think Dobbs as FOY is pretty much a no-brainer. The only competition is the kid from Vandy and while he played a bunch he wasn't nearly as productive.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
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I feel like the beginning of the season will be enough to get him an invite.


I don't know, maybe. He is definitely going to be #2 in the southern voting behind Coop and I think his performances in their biggest games down the stretch will hurt him. His TD/INT numbers the second half of the year and in SEC games is just not very good.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
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Rating
1. Sims - 159.5
2. Mason - 154.8
3. Hill - 154.6
4. Prescott - 151.3
5. Marshall - 148.7

Passing YPA
1. Sims - 9.1
2. Prescott - 8.7
3. Wallace - 8.6
4. Marshall - 8.5
5. Hill - 8.3

Passing TD
1. Sims - 24
1. Thompson - 24
1. Prescott - 24
4. Hill - 23
5. Wallace - 22
5. Mauk - 22
7. Mason - 20
8. B. Allen - 18
8. Marshall - 18

INT
1. Wallace - 11
1. Thompson - 11
1. Mauk - 11
4. Driskel - 10
4. Prescott - 10
10. Sims - 7
10. Marshall - 7

Completion PCT
1. Mason - 67.9
2. Hill - 66.7
3. Sims - 63.1
4. Worley - 62.3
5. Wallace - 61.2
6. Prescott - 61.2
7. Marshall - 60.1

Rush Yards
1. Prescott - 939
2. Marshall - 780
3. Dobbs - 393
4. Mauk - 336
5. Towles - 305
6. Sims - 302

Rushing YPA
1. Marshall - 5.3
2. Prescott - 4.8
3. Sims - 4.7
4. Dobbs - 4.3
5. Mauk - 3.5

Rush TD
1. Prescott - 13
2. Marshall - 11
3. Dobbs - 6
3. Sims - 6
3. Towles - 6




Left yards a game of rushing and passing. Also, Dak WAS his team and led his normally shitastic program to their best year ever. Sims had the best WR in the country and the nations premier program surrounded by 5 star talent.


ETA:

So Dak, on a shittier team with less talent around him had same # of passing TDs as Sims who had Amari Cooper and 7 more rushing TDs than Sims (as well as 600 more yards)?

Only 3 more interceptions as well.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Also, Dak WAS his team and led his normally shitastic program to their best year ever. Sims had the best WR in the country and the nations premier program surrounded by 5 star talent.


I'd probably give Dak the nod, but like I said his TD/INT numbers in SEC games are almost 50-50. That just isn't very good.

And in his last 2 games on the biggest stage he was pedestrian at best.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44854 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:35 pm to
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Think Dobbs as FOY is pretty much a no-brainer. The only competition is the kid from Vandy and while he played a bunch he wasn't nearly as productive.


Dobbs is actually a true sophomore, we never did get the chance to redshirt him. In most ways, I'd count him as a RS Fr. (that's what he should be) but injuries never allowed that to happen.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Dobbs is actually a true sophomore, we never did get the chance to redshirt him. In most ways, I'd count him as a RS Fr. (that's what he should be) but injuries never allowed that to happen.


You are right, I totally forgot that. Also I was thinking Newcomer of the Year, though I don't know what the actual SEC Award is.

If it is freshman then I guess the kid at Vandy is really the only one eligible.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

And in his last 2 games on the biggest stage he was pedestrian at best.



At LSU he absolutely dominated while Sims didn't.

Sims had poor performances as well in conference.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

At LSU he absolutely dominated while Sims didn't. Sims had poor performances as well in conference.


Overall in conference Sims passing numbers are significantly better.

Sims - 20 TD/5 INT
Dak - 13 TD/8 INT

Sims - 154.2 rating
Dak - 142.7 rating

Sims - 270 ypg
Dak - 261.8 ypg

Sims - 59.2%
Dak - 61.6%

Sims - 201 yds rushing
Dak - 612 yds rushing

Sims - 4.37 ypr
Dak - 4.11 ypr

Sims - 4 rush TD
Dak - 10 rush TD



Like I said, I'd probably give Dak the nod, but his passing numbers against good teams sucked.
Posted by Alkibaba
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:42 pm to
But Sims lead his team from behind to wins while Dak did not
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44854 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:



You are right, I totally forgot that. Also I was thinking Newcomer of the Year, though I don't know what the actual SEC Award is.

If it is freshman then I guess the kid at Vandy is really the only one eligible.


Dobbs is the sole reason we're bowling - no doubt about it. And had we been forced to play Peterman we might not have won any of the games left which would've turned things from a season to build on into an absolute catastrophe.

Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:54 pm to
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and 10 INTs. Not exactly Heisman worthy.


Andrew Luck had 10 and 11 ints, with the same amount of TDs.
Posted by kevind1965
Davenport, Florida
Member since Oct 2013
442 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:59 pm to
Id probably go:

1. DAK
2. Sims
3. Marshall

although personally, the one that I'd hate to have to defend the most would be Marshall
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Left yards a game of rushing and passing. Also, Dak WAS his team and led his normally shitastic program to their best year ever. Sims had the best WR in the country and the nations premier program surrounded by 5 star talent.


This argument is so fricking weak. Sims should be first team. The numbers against conference teams proves he played the best all year. He also leads in wins. The only stat that actually matters.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Andrew Luck had 10 and 11 ints, with the same amount of TDs.


2014 Prescott
61.2%, 24 TD, 10 INT, 151.3 rating

2011 Luck
71.3%, 37 TD, 10 INT, 169.7 rating
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32655 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:02 pm to
lol People, Dak ain't that good.
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