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re: Will there be riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:29 pm to reedus23
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:29 pm to reedus23
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you don't get to go instigate a fight and then shoot someone because you're getting your arse kicked
You're assuming he instigated. He claims he was sucker punched. If someone is using lethal force against you, you by law, have a right to defend yourself with lethal force.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:29 pm to AUnite
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None of this would have happened if GZ would've stayed in his damn car.
Again, easy to judge in hindsight. Had Trayvon actually been yet another young black male intending to commit a criminal offense in the neighborhood in question...
If it went down like Zimmerman says it did, is it not possible he genuinely thought Martin was going to do something criminal in the immediate future?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:30 pm to reedus23
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Even if he got his head bashed in, you don't get to go instigate a fight and then shoot someone because you're getting your arse kicked.
Exactly!
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:30 pm to sms151t
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:30 pm to reedus23
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you don't get to go instigate a fight
who said he instigated a fight? he might have just wanted to ask who he was? what if Trayvon jumped him?
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:34 pm to sms151t
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The only two facts we know are this...
A man is dead. A man is charged with murder. But we do not know what caused the altercation.
No, the facts are that we have a man, George Zimmerman, who has an extremely violent and questionable past of initiating fights with police officers, females, and minorities in general, seeking his next victim to satisfy his racial-driven bloodlust.
George Zimmerman is afforded this opportunity as a neighborhood watchman, a role which he secured to allow him to act out his prejudiced attacks under the guise of helping the security of his community, unfortunately times were getting slow and the lack of criminal activity has landed George Zimmerman in a slump.
That is when George Zimmerman notices a group of young African American youth wandering through his community on a shortcut from their weekly boy scout meetings. Zimmerman realizes he can't directly attack this group of youthful bodies therefore he orchestrates a series of house break-ins to heighten suspicions and fear among-st residents, this enrolls him with more power and control as the neighborhood watchman(or executor as he would prefer).
On a dark February night, Trayvon Martin, leaving one of his local boy scout meetings late due to helping in the homeless soup kitchen longer to get more service hours, finds himself in the community where George Zimmerman, drunk on power and violence, is on the prowl.
And you know the rest.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
Would the outrage be the same if a man who was 17 wearing steel toed work boots, had a shaved head, with suspenders, was walking down the street and got shot during an argument?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If it went down like Zimmerman says it did, is it not possible he genuinely thought Martin was going to do something criminal in the immediate future?
He's not a police officer! He was a volunteer - wannabe vigilante. No one had any business following someone except the police. I'm sure that scared the kid, and he took it as threatening. Bottom line - the person without the gun ended up dead.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Klarvin
Zimmerman isn't a cop and it doesn't matter WTF he thought might happen.
You really need to STFU about legal stuff.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:37 pm to sms151t
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Would the outrage be the same if a man who was 17 wearing steel toed work boots, had a shaved head, with suspenders, was walking down the street and got shot during an argument?
If he was unarmed, and shot by someone, not the police, who was following him for no reason? Yes, as far as i'm concerned.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:37 pm to DanMullins4Life
You know he is drunk off power?
Zimmerman created the break-ins?
Those are facts or your opinion?
Zimmerman created the break-ins?
Those are facts or your opinion?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:37 pm to semotruman
None of it matters. Zimmerman wont be convicted of second degree murder. There isn't enough evidence to support that conviction.
With an all female, mostly white, mostly middle class jury...
Manslaughter at the most.
With an all female, mostly white, mostly middle class jury...
Manslaughter at the most.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:37 pm to semotruman
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the person without the gun ended up dead
Which is why gun control shouldn't be forced upon citizens.
(how's that for a transition?

Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:37 pm to sms151t
Those are facts!
#JUSTICFORTRAVRYN
#JUSTICFORTRAVRYN
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:39 pm to DanMullins4Life
So you know Mr Zimmerman personally? Therefor you were at the scene of the crime? Yet did nothing to prevent said crime? You should be arraigned for murder also then.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:39 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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who said he instigated a fight? he might have just wanted to ask who he was? what if Trayvon jumped him?
If he just wanted to ask Martin some questions then why would Trayvon have the need to attack him? Yes he would have a hostile aura around him, but so would most people if they were followed by a stranger in the dark.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:41 pm to rtr14
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If he just wanted to ask Martin some questions then why would Trayvon have the need to attack him?
why did Trayvon call Zimmerman a creepy arse cracka? why was Trayvon suspended from school? why did Trayvon have texts on his phone about street fighting?
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:43 pm to sms151t
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So you know Mr Zimmerman personally? Therefor you were at the scene of the crime? Yet did nothing to prevent said crime? You should be arraigned for murder also then.
Dude. So much fail in this.
Florida (and most other states) do not require a citizen to step in and stop a crime.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:46 pm to reedus23
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Even if he got his head bashed in, you don't get to go instigate a fight and then shoot someone because you're getting your arse kicked.
Legally, this is inaccurate. Only if Zimmerman initiated with potentially deadly force would this hold true. If Zimmerman approached Martin with anything other than potentially life-threatening force and then Martin took it to that level (aka "getting his arse beat") Zimmerman is justified in defending himself with his weapon. This exact scenario has played out in courtrooms before.
Basically, if Zimmerman didn't jump him or draw his gun prior to any altercation your post is incorrect.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 11:49 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Legally, this is inaccurate
Goddamn. You fricking suck. Please stop talking about the law. You've been wrong in every legal thing you've posted.
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