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re: Why are most crimes committed by minorities?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:56 pm to Bama Bird
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:56 pm to Bama Bird
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Another explanation people like to use is that laws are structured to punish minorities and not whites, an example being the far more severe penalties for crack cocaine than pure cocaine.
Crack is way more addictive than pure cocaine, probably the reason for that.
What gets more minorities in trouble with drugs is they are always involved in selling the drugs. White people most of the time just buy the drug which is way less risky because your name is not out on the street.
It's easy to pick up a dime sack and take it home to smoke. It isn't easy to hide drugs constantly while people all over the area know you're the dopeman and can rat you out at any time.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:59 pm to CatFan81
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CatFan81
I hear you and I'm glad your friends are all beating the odds.
quote:That's still a pretty affluent area unless you're seriously living in the ghetto, which is highly unlikely.
I live in the middle of the city of Atlanta. I've never felt threatened. Not a single time have I ever felt like I wasn't safe.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Let's just leave it that I disagree for a variety of reasons and pick this back up at a later time
Fair enough. I'm just giving my viewpoint from the personal interactions with black people in my area. That's basically what I've gathered from most of them
It's most likely different causes in different areas of the country though. Regardless, I think the war on drugs is complete bullshite and it cost the taxpayer too much money to fight. Just legalize and regulate everything except hardcore drugs like Meth and Heroine and get these non violent offenders out of prison.
Legalize weed and all these "criminal drug dealers" are all of a sudden working taxpayers selling a product in the free market

Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:01 pm to CatFan81
If you want my white ex con opinion it is more about who can afford good representation. I been locked up for lesser things and walked on larger things and I have found the better your mouthpiece the less time your gonna do. Skin color has nothing to do with it. I won't even go into the value that certian cultures put on having done prison time and how some young men actively try and do time for street cred.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:05 pm to deltaland
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Crack is way more addictive than pure cocaine, probably the reason for that.
What gets more minorities in trouble with drugs is they are always involved in selling the drugs. White people most of the time just buy the drug which is way less risky because your name is not out on the street.
It's easy to pick up a dime sack and take it home to smoke. It isn't easy to hide drugs constantly while people all over the area know you're the dopeman and can rat you out at any time.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:06 pm to sorantable
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I hear you and I'm glad your friends are all beating the odds.
They're not my friends. They're my relatives.
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That's still a pretty affluent area unless you're seriously living in the ghetto, which is highly unlikely.
More than half of my apartment complex is minority, whether it be African American, Asian, Muslim, etc.
I also have a ton of African American friends that have never committed a crime. They're well educated upstanding members of their communities.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:08 pm to Bama Bird
Here's my opinion, and if you disagree with it then whatever.
The crimes for minorities, blacks in particular, is astonishing. Use whatever excuse you want, but it is a fact.
I personally think that it's the US government's policies as a whole over the course of several generations that are at fault, in many different ways.
In the south in particular, you had a much higher employment rate if blacks up until the 60s vs today. Albiet, the jobs were shitty, but nonetheless they were working at a much higher rate. In the 60s, we saw all the civil rights movements and the government mandated social reforms. All of these things did a great deal of good in granting blacks rights that they had before been denied, but they also brought about a sense of entitlement. Many realized that they could not work and gain better wages than they did beforehand, and that morphed into a culture that was more damaging than was forseen.
Today after a couple of generations of this lifestyle,young blacks have increasingly become bitter towards the treatment seen during the pre-civil rights era and want no part of what they see as respectable American lifestyle as deemed by their White superiors. It all goes back to bitterness over the past, which whites as a whole are much to blame.
It discourages me knowing the advantages blacks have these days with employment, scholarship, etc, and knowing that they are in large part going to waste.
This obviously doesn't go for all blacks, many are living full potential lives. I just hope the problem can get batter during my lifetime, and hopefully political leaders find a solution, because over the last 50 years it has gradually gotten worse.
The crimes for minorities, blacks in particular, is astonishing. Use whatever excuse you want, but it is a fact.
I personally think that it's the US government's policies as a whole over the course of several generations that are at fault, in many different ways.
In the south in particular, you had a much higher employment rate if blacks up until the 60s vs today. Albiet, the jobs were shitty, but nonetheless they were working at a much higher rate. In the 60s, we saw all the civil rights movements and the government mandated social reforms. All of these things did a great deal of good in granting blacks rights that they had before been denied, but they also brought about a sense of entitlement. Many realized that they could not work and gain better wages than they did beforehand, and that morphed into a culture that was more damaging than was forseen.
Today after a couple of generations of this lifestyle,young blacks have increasingly become bitter towards the treatment seen during the pre-civil rights era and want no part of what they see as respectable American lifestyle as deemed by their White superiors. It all goes back to bitterness over the past, which whites as a whole are much to blame.
It discourages me knowing the advantages blacks have these days with employment, scholarship, etc, and knowing that they are in large part going to waste.
This obviously doesn't go for all blacks, many are living full potential lives. I just hope the problem can get batter during my lifetime, and hopefully political leaders find a solution, because over the last 50 years it has gradually gotten worse.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:10 pm to CatFan81
Cat, I'm obviously not saying every minority is a criminal. There are good and bad people of all races and nationalities.
Where I live, more often than not, if there is a young black male waking down the street, he usually isn't up to any good. It's not paranoia or racism. I'm sure downtown ATL is different.
Where I live, more often than not, if there is a young black male waking down the street, he usually isn't up to any good. It's not paranoia or racism. I'm sure downtown ATL is different.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:14 pm to OBReb6
Solid post. I agree 100%.
The problem is
Political leaders don't want a solution, because they really don't care about them. They want to keep them on the welfare plantation and continue to race bait and use false propaganda in order to steal their votes.
Nothing will change until the black community itself addresses it's own problems and fixes them. Politicians and Government will not fix the problems. The only thing gov't is good at is creating more problems.
I'm hoping that improvements in education and the dying off of the generation that lived during the Civil Rights era will lead to faster healing and more productive generations in the future that don't base everything on race.
The problem is
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and hopefully political leaders find a solution, because over the last 50 years it has gradually gotten worse.
Political leaders don't want a solution, because they really don't care about them. They want to keep them on the welfare plantation and continue to race bait and use false propaganda in order to steal their votes.
Nothing will change until the black community itself addresses it's own problems and fixes them. Politicians and Government will not fix the problems. The only thing gov't is good at is creating more problems.
I'm hoping that improvements in education and the dying off of the generation that lived during the Civil Rights era will lead to faster healing and more productive generations in the future that don't base everything on race.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:14 pm to sorantable
minorities sell drugs because they see it as the only way to get ahead and because they have people they see growing up doing it and attaining nice things.
Most of the prison and jail population is incarcerated or has been incarcerated at some point for drugs.
So, the answer is drugs IMO.
Most of the prison and jail population is incarcerated or has been incarcerated at some point for drugs.
So, the answer is drugs IMO.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 pm to sorantable
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Where I live, more often than not, if there is a young black male waking down the street, he usually isn't up to any good.
Greenville has gotten God awful. I went out to Spectators a couple months back and some drunk black dude came up to us talking shite about Trayvon Martin and frick white people this and that blah blah.
I took the liberty to cro-hop him in the head and leave him laying unconscious in the middle of walnut street

Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 pm to CatFan81
I too think it's a combination of things..before i get started, let me add:
I am not scared of black people, or hispanics, or any race, nor do i think any less of them.
I think that there is a huge problem with the "ghetto" culture--or culture that idolizes drugs,violence, money at any cost etc. Are there socioeconomic factors involved? You bet your arse there are. Blacks, among other races, have had it especially hard in America and aren't seen kindly in the eyes of prosecutors most of the time. Many black children don't have a father figure to teach them how to behave in society and you will see deviance in these poor urban black children just as you will see it in the poor rural white children who don't have a father figure or come from a broken home. They are habitual offenders both as a product of generations of dysfunction and a culture they idolize which keeps them in the same place they are or worse.
In the end, it's all about responsibility of the individual. Yes, there are many socioeconomic factors and many that can be attributed to race. But in today's world, both white and black, regardless of where you came from--you are the one who reaches a point of deciding whether to make a future for yourself or fall back into the same bad habits as your friends or relatives. That's it.
I am not scared of black people, or hispanics, or any race, nor do i think any less of them.
I think that there is a huge problem with the "ghetto" culture--or culture that idolizes drugs,violence, money at any cost etc. Are there socioeconomic factors involved? You bet your arse there are. Blacks, among other races, have had it especially hard in America and aren't seen kindly in the eyes of prosecutors most of the time. Many black children don't have a father figure to teach them how to behave in society and you will see deviance in these poor urban black children just as you will see it in the poor rural white children who don't have a father figure or come from a broken home. They are habitual offenders both as a product of generations of dysfunction and a culture they idolize which keeps them in the same place they are or worse.
In the end, it's all about responsibility of the individual. Yes, there are many socioeconomic factors and many that can be attributed to race. But in today's world, both white and black, regardless of where you came from--you are the one who reaches a point of deciding whether to make a future for yourself or fall back into the same bad habits as your friends or relatives. That's it.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:18 pm to sorantable
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Where I live, more often than not, if there is a young black male waking down the street, he usually isn't up to any good.
This thread just became a troll who went to the gym for 3 hours, showered, went to the bar alone, drank 6 rbv's, went home and jerked off 3 times, called his mom, jerked off again and cried.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:21 pm to Slippery Slope
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This thread just became a troll who went to the gym for 3 hours, showered, went to the bar alone, drank 6 rbv's, went home and jerked off 3 times, called his mom, jerked off again and cried.

Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:21 pm to deltaland
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I went out to Spectators a couple months back and some drunk black dude came up to us talking shite about Trayvon Martin and frick white people this and that blah blah.
I took the liberty to cro-hop him in the head and leave him laying unconscious in the middle of walnut street
That's kind of fricked up on your part unless the dude was actively threatening you.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:22 pm to Slippery Slope
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Slippery Slope


Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:22 pm to deltaland
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Greenville has gotten God awful. I went out to Spectators a couple months back and some drunk black dude came up to us talking shite about Trayvon Martin and frick white people this and that blah blah.
Unless you know, you just don't know. The struggle is real.
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