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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:25 pm to the808bass
I was gonna ask, to where, what profitable field of endeavor, would that degree apply in today's world other than perhaps some made-up government bullshite job?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:26 pm to scrooster
Professor of African American studies. Tenured professor is one of the best jobs in the world.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:07 pm to scrooster
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i have no sympathy for the nypd officers who were murdered today
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Khadijah
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Representative in the African and Afro-American Studies Department
I'm shocked
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:14 pm to Stonehog
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Professor of African American studies. Tenured professor is one of the best jobs in the world.
If you have no drive or ambition and want to make roughly what a public school teacher makes. Sure. It's awesome.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:18 pm to the808bass
You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:22 pm to Stonehog
Sure I do. The pay for an AA professor at Mizzou is about the same as a public school teacher with a Masters + 30 hours and a decade or so of experience at a metro St. Louis school. Any questions?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:27 pm to the808bass
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Any questions?
The average salary for a full professor is around $100,000. Do you know any public school teachers making that much?
Eta: nice edit
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:29 pm to Stonehog
We're not talking average. We're talking African American studies. The two I looked up were ~$61k and ~$71k at Mizzou. Humanities doesn't pay like the sciences.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:30 pm to Stonehog
My edit was to change "doctorate" to "Masters + 30 hours" because that's the salary schedule in Missouri for public teachers.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:31 pm to the808bass
Missouri clearly sucks then
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:34 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Looked up Arkansas' African American studies professor. $63k
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:36 pm to the808bass
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$63k
Yep, just like public school teachers.
Maybe after 30 years.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:40 pm to Stonehog
1). How old is the average professor when they're hired?
2). Here's a salary schedule for a suburban St Louis public school.
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In it you'll note that with the same education required of a university professor, they will reach $63k at year 11 (or roughly the age of 33 if they apply themselves). There's a hell of a lot of people with doctorates wandering around universities who would be delighted to have benefits and $63k in salary at the age of 33.
Eta: Obviously that's in the humanities.
2). Here's a salary schedule for a suburban St Louis public school.
LINK
In it you'll note that with the same education required of a university professor, they will reach $63k at year 11 (or roughly the age of 33 if they apply themselves). There's a hell of a lot of people with doctorates wandering around universities who would be delighted to have benefits and $63k in salary at the age of 33.
Eta: Obviously that's in the humanities.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:44 pm to the808bass
Show me a 33 year old public school teacher making $63,000 per year and I'll show you a fricking unicorn.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:46 pm to Stonehog
Would you like to change your argument now?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:52 pm to the808bass
My argument was that a tenured professor is one of the best jobs a person can have. You can continue to argue that fact if you want, but you'll still be wrong.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:57 pm to Stonehog
Not in this department/field. You can continue to argue that, but you'll still be wrong.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:59 pm to the808bass
So you're saying a $70,000 salary for working 8 months out of the year is a bad job?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:03 am to Stonehog
I refer you to my initial remarks.
If you have no drive or ambition and want to make roughly what a public school teacher makes.
If you have no drive or ambition and want to make roughly what a public school teacher makes.
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