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RiP Mr Jimmy
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:24 pm
Last real Christian POTUS
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:54 pm to Cheese Grits
At least he can still vote.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:05 pm to Cheese Grits
A far better ex-president than president.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:12 pm to Drydock
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A far better ex-president than president.
Did you actually know him?
I worked for Nixon and Carter both, then worked with Carter on causes like HfH after he left office. Both were good for the actual citizens of this country but both were outsiders to the Cliff Dwellers & Beltway Boys and these 2 groups used the media to paint both in unfair light. They were like the Yin and Yang of POTUS but both had to preside during the oil shocks of the 1970's. For those not old enough, these oil shocks were the greatest global transfer if wealth from US industrial might to countries outside of the US with oil reserves. Folks forget, it was Central and South America that created OPEC, not the Middle East.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 6:35 pm to Cheese Grits
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Did you actually know him?
I worked for Nixon and Carter both, then worked with Carter on causes like HfH after he left office. Both were good for the actual citizens of this country but both were outsiders to the Cliff Dwellers & Beltway Boys and these 2 groups used the media to paint both in unfair light. They were like the Yin and Yang of POTUS but both had to preside during the oil shocks of the 1970's. For those not old enough, these oil shocks were the greatest global transfer if wealth from US industrial might to countries outside of the US with oil reserves. Folks forget, it was Central and South America that created OPEC, not the Middle East.
You worked for 2 bad presidents.
Nixon took us off the gold standard.
Carter created the Department of Education.
Both of these things fricked the American people long term.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 7:54 pm to 3down10
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Nixon took us off the gold standard.
I think he had to with the oil shocks. I still say the gold in Fort Knox was dissipated during that time. Nothing but dust in those rooms now.
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Carter created the Department of Education.
It is good to have a Board of Education. Merica got the shaft when nuns and principals could no longer discipline the students and school became about babysitting and not actually about education.
People tend to blame the wrong thing for the end result.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 8:40 pm to Cheese Grits
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I think he had to with the oil shocks. I still say the gold in Fort Knox was dissipated during that time. Nothing but dust in those rooms now.
Fractional reserve banking I think is the issue. In theory someone could take 100% of the gold reserves with only a small % of the currency. I think only 25% was needed. Not that anyone had such a number to my knowledge, but the dollar was obviously badly overvalued etc.
And of course those who benefit from all the newly created money don't like the limits to start with as they are only there to protect the common citizens. So they wanted to devalue it even more and the gold standard prevented it.
I think such crisis are manufactured often to bring about a solution already in motion.
The Petro dollar started almost directly after. Which allows a lot of that inflation and such to be exported. Instead of gold being the reserve, the dollar is. Great if you want to dominate the world, steal lots of wealth and build the state. Not so great for everyone else.
I'm not a historian so I don't know all the details and I was too young to understand or even pay attention. I just hate central banking. If I could only change one thing in this world it would be an honest monetary system.
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It is good to have a Board of Education. Merica got the shaft when nuns and principals could no longer discipline the students and school became about babysitting and not actually about education.
People tend to blame the wrong thing for the end result.
I disagree. It's a centralization of power and it's doomed to fail. I'm very much a republic kind of guy, and I don't mean "republican" I mean as a system of government. When you have a republic, you have 50 states(in our case) all looking to have the best programs possible.
That means 50 states all trying different things. When something works in state, other states are then free to adopt it to their state program. When a state does something shitty, only that state suffers and they have 49 other programs to look at to get better.
With a federal program, you get 1 program for everyone and a shite ton of waste. Even if you get a guy you like in charge, you're just a shitty election away from 8+ years of trash.
Furthermore, you as a citizen have a much larger say on the state level. Your vote makes up a larger % of the total vote. You also vote more often for your leaders, so change can happen faster.
You can take it down even further and do it on the local level. Even more programs trying things, and you have even more say in things. Hell you might even get elected to a local council if your community isn't too large etc.
That's what power to the people looks like, and that's how the country was setup to work. If it was up to me, I'd dismantle 95% of the federal government tomorrow. They should be only for a few specific jobs, like providing a common defense for the states. Making sure the states don't infringe on the rights of the people(like the civil rights movement for example is a proper use of the federal government).
And it would solve a great deal of the problems. If people in California want some type of universal healthcare system, they can do that. If they fail, nobody else will do it, or they will learn from it. If they succeed, people will copy it. And you can move between states to one that does things you like.
Instead, we got California trying to force Texas to do this and that. People need to mind their own.
I also think democracy sucks and don't understand why people accept this idea that 51% of the populate somehow has a right to take and spend your wealth as they see fit, even on shite you don't agree with. That's not freedom or liberty, that's just tyranny of a majority. A majority of which is dumb as shite and even dumber as a result of the DoE and a state controlled MSM. It's really just the illusion of such. Start a go fund me and let people choose if they would rather feed their family or bomb some brown kid half way around the world.
The constitution is a document of limited government, not a document of limited rights.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:12 am to Drydock
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A far better ex-president than president.
Yes, and lucky for him because he isn't seen as another Biden because of that. Biden doesn't have that body of work, so he will be seen as a 1000% failure.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:29 am to Cheese Grits
My parents voted for Carter
This was back when Democrats weren't warmongering perverted Nazi Satan worshipers
This was back when Democrats weren't warmongering perverted Nazi Satan worshipers
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:47 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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This was back when Democrats weren't warmongering perverted Nazi Satan worshipers
My parents were democrats when democrats wanted to help underprivileged people instead of exploiting them.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:07 am to Cheese Grits
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still say the gold in Fort Knox was dissipated during that time. Nothing but dust in those rooms now.
Goldfinger is legitimate proof that there is gold in fort Knox and I refuse to belive otherwise.
Was it made before we were taken off the gold standard? Yes. Was it shot in fort knox? No. Do I care? No.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 8:10 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:23 am to 3down10
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If I could only change one thing in this world it would be an honest monetary system.
The Great Depression did not happen by accident but at least the government had the sense to hire the crooks to draft the laws to prevent it in the future. Now we have killed those laws.
Insurance is still in 50 states and it has saved out butts more than once. When 9/11 happened Lloyds of London was bust. That would have started a panic that would have made the Great Depression look like a tiny dent. One of the thinks that helps was 50 different states and 50 different insurance commissioners. Assets and risk had been spread to we had some gold bars buried in the collective piles of manure.
I do not have a problem with a central bank but private companies profiting from this is not kosher in my view. Same with Visa and such today as they get to "skim" 2.5 to 5.0 percent of the US dollar when their cost to operate is far below their numbers and they weaken the buying power by profiting on the debt payments.
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When you have a republic, you have 50 states(in our case) all looking to have the best programs possible.
I tend to agree with this but I think it has to have 2 parts. Most innovation starts at the bottom and moves up (states in this case) but strength comes from mass (US in this case).
Viewed another way, Federal, State, and Local all have skin in the game (and road contractors make money no matter the D or R party) so you have checks and balances on what the taxpaying citizens actually get.
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The constitution is a document of limited government, not a document of limited rights.
I am old enough to have lived through much more but also had strong classes in school when I attended. Folks forget it was a 2 party system between the Federalists and the Democratic - Republicans. If I had my way I would return to the roots of the Democratic - Republican Party and update as needed but not enough care to learn from the past to protect the future.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:03 am to Cheese Grits
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at least the government had the sense to hire the crooks to draft the laws to prevent it in the future. Now we have killed those laws.
Taft Hartley? 2008? Great Society? Please.
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Same with Visa and such today as they get to "skim" 2.5 to 5.0 percent of the US dollar when their cost to operate is far below their numbers and they weaken the buying power by profiting on the debt payments.
They're not skimming, it's a voluntary transaction to use the convenience of the global processing network to avoid you going to the ATM every week.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:29 pm to Cheese Grits
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The Great Depression did not happen by accident but at least the government had the sense to hire the crooks to draft the laws to prevent it in the future. Now we have killed those laws.
Insurance is still in 50 states and it has saved out butts more than once. When 9/11 happened Lloyds of London was bust. That would have started a panic that would have made the Great Depression look like a tiny dent. One of the thinks that helps was 50 different states and 50 different insurance commissioners. Assets and risk had been spread to we had some gold bars buried in the collective piles of manure.
I do not have a problem with a central bank but private companies profiting from this is not kosher in my view. Same with Visa and such today as they get to "skim" 2.5 to 5.0 percent of the US dollar when their cost to operate is far below their numbers and they weaken the buying power by profiting on the debt payments.
We are all economic slaves and have been since 1913. The "national debt" is a complete scam. Give me a central bank and I will steal your wealth without touching your wallet.
Let's assume only $100 exists in the world for our money supply. And to make it easy, let's assume the only thing you can buy is a widget. And the entire worlds widget supply is 20 widgets. While not quite this simple, we can generally assume each widget is worth about $5 as far as currency vs supply goes. Let's say you own $10 of that $100, you have enough to buy 2 widgets.
But since I'm a central bank, I'm going to go ahead and print up another $100. Now what has happened? Since there are only 20 widgets, each widget is now worth $10. You went from being able to buy 2 widgets to only being able to buy 1. I just stolen half your wealth without touching your wallet. Whoever got the $100 that was created just gained your wealth.
This is of course experienced as inflation. And it's extremely evil and hurts the poor the most because they are on fixed income. They just have less, and will struggle to make ends meet - just like we see now.
Bad already, but it gets worse. I'm not just going to print up that $100. Oh no, I'm going to issue it as debt. So now it has to be paid back - with interest. However, the interest money itself is never created. So they owe back $105 if it's 5% interest.
Eventually the interest becomes so high it's impossible to pay back the debt. You have to keep printing up new money to cover the interest, which just keeps getting higher and higher.
When it comes to the Fed, the newly created money goes to government generally(although they don't get audited), but the debt is given to the people. So in the above example, it's not up to the people who got the $100 that was created stealing half your wealth, YOU are in part responsible to pay it back with interest. So you get taxed to pay the debt from the wealth that was stolen from you.
You would think well as debt gets paid off, the inflation goes down. And that is the case, however because of all the interest problems I mention all that's going to happen is a lot of deflation, bankruptcies and so forth. And that's where the Great Depression was.
You had a country full of resources, you had a population able to work, and the demand. Everything to have a rip economy was present. The only thing missing were the dollars needed to make it happen. The "company store" existed to get around the lack of money.
I think the banks took 1/3rd of all farmland etc. The bank runs happened because of fractional reserve banking.
Some people would say WW2 ended the Great Depression, but that is bullshite. War, death and destruction are not economic boosters. What actually happened is the banks started printing up money. Money for the people to have a basic society? NO. War? You bet your arse, it's the central bankers favorite investment. Suddenly money is available and the economy gets going.
And it's never really stopped because we haven't stopped the global agenda since WW2. Spreading death and destruction around the world, putting countries in debt to plunder their resources, etc.
It's a constant transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.
An honest monetary system would be something like colonial scripts. Where the currency is created in direct proportion to the amount of trade going on. When the economy grows, more currency should be created. By the government to pay for government and NOT as debt. Because the printing of money is a TAX on the people. If done correctly, inflation should be 0%. The prices of things should only change on supply and demand.
The problem with colonial scripts is that when given the chance, government likes to print up a bunch and it creates inflation etc. Then you get the phrase "as worthless as a continental dollar". So that is why in the constitution the money supply is tied to gold and silver and is to be maintained by congress. To prevent congress from printing up money. And that's what you had with the gold standard to some degree.
But today, not only do we have the worst part of the colonial scripts, it's done as debt and everything I mentioned above.
If people understood the truth they would revolt tomorrow. It's way worse than what I can say as well with the fallout. The whole "trickle down" thing is just where they transfer the money back to the top and then give it to the yes men and those who sell their souls.
Economic slavery since 1913.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:39 pm to Cheese Grits
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I tend to agree with this but I think it has to have 2 parts. Most innovation starts at the bottom and moves up (states in this case) but strength comes from mass (US in this case).
Viewed another way, Federal, State, and Local all have skin in the game (and road contractors make money no matter the D or R party) so you have checks and balances on what the taxpaying citizens actually get.
The federal government has it's place and role. But it should be limited to only thing things in the constitution.
To provide a common defense. As 50 states together we are stronger to defend ourselves. Attack 1 state, you attack all. A strong military is great.
This implies foreign policy in general. When we vote for a president and congress, we should not be voting on domestic issues. Domestic issues are largely for the states.
And then there is a function of trade. Need common measurements etc and such to ease trade between states. And of course, to settle disputes between states and so on.
And this includes currency and what I mention above. That's supposed to be a function of congress.
They need to make sure the states do not infringe on the rights of their people. So take when states weren't allowing people to vote. It's the proper use of the federal government to step in.
What is not acceptable is the general welfare clause loophole where they just do whatever the frick they want and claim "it's good for the people". That is not at all how that is supposed to work. That is only to give congress permission to do what I mentioned above with the civil rights. General welfare is mentioned twice, once in the preamble and there. The part of the constitution that defines the general welfare are the amendments. Add an amendment and the general welfare clause gives you permission to enforce it.
That's why they had to add an amendment to prohibit alcohol. The constitution has to give permission.
Want universal healthcare(I'm against it)? Add an amendment. Guess what, it automatically applies to everyone equally, not just special rights people with the general welfare abuse and the general welfare clause gives congress the power to carry it out.
But nobody gives a shite about the constitution anymore, much less what it actually says. Instead they just assume government can do whatever the frick it wants as long as it doesn't infringe on the few listed rights, of which are under constant attack.
Taxes are generally theft.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:47 pm to Cheese Grits
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I am old enough to have lived through much more but also had strong classes in school when I attended. Folks forget it was a 2 party system between the Federalists and the Democratic - Republicans. If I had my way I would return to the roots of the Democratic - Republican Party and update as needed but not enough care to learn from the past to protect the future.
I'd probably be an anti-federalist. The 9th and 10th amendments were supposed to be a compromise and such, but I'm not sure the 9th has ever been used or even understood and the 10th got screwed over by slavery.
The other listed rights we still somewhat have, so I'm glad they were added as part of the compromise, but the 9th and 10th are supposed to be a lock to prevent us from going to a document of limited rights.
The anti-federalists turned out to be right, but they don't have to be.
And going off that, I'm sure you can guess that I am very much a Thomas Jefferson fan and not at all a Hamilton fan. Especially since Hamilton was a fan of central banks.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:57 pm to 3down10
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Want universal healthcare
Universal healthcare does not work
Private healthcare does not work
The problem is the engineers paradox
Optimist = glass half full
Pessimist = glass half empty
Both are wrong, the engineer would observe you have the wrong sized glass but nobody listens
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nobody young gives a shite about the constitution anymore
FIFY
I have it by my bedside, in old school book form, but kids today could care less.
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Taxes are generally theft
Unconstitutional on several attempts when SCOTUS got involved. Then WW I debt came along and suddenly they were all legal.
In my dotage I am following in my old man's footsteps. He worked hard for a living and had no problem paying taxes. His beef is he was a thrifty worker but his Uncle Sam was a bit of a spendthrift when it came to money. Need a young crop of old school Scottish bakers spending the taxes but as least getting value for the money.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:12 pm to 3down10
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I'd probably be an anti-federalist.
Then you would be a real Democratic - Republican.
The biggest problem I have with the Federalists is they are not following the collective, just a few papers. If memory serves there are over 80 papers and at best supposed Federalist only seem to quote from 2 to 4 of them.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:08 pm to Cheese Grits
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Universal healthcare does not work
Private healthcare does not work
The problem is the engineers paradox
I'd just take government out of completely. My insurance has done nothing but increase every year since Obama.
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Unconstitutional on several attempts when SCOTUS got involved. Then WW I debt came along and suddenly they were all legal.
In my dotage I am following in my old man's footsteps. He worked hard for a living and had no problem paying taxes. His beef is he was a thrifty worker but his Uncle Sam was a bit of a spendthrift when it came to money. Need a young crop of old school Scottish bakers spending the taxes but as least getting value for the money.
Some taxes are good. I love the gas tax for example. Not that I enjoy paying for it, but I like the way it works. I use the roads, I pay for the roads with the gas tax. The more I use the roads, the more tax I pay. If I don't use the roads, I don't pay the tax.
That's beautiful/perfect. Aside from the fact states often raid for other reasons and corruption anyway.
Income tax is slavery IMO. It's more about the federal reserve than anything. It was supposed to be temporary.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:30 pm to 3down10
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My insurance has done nothing but increase every year since Obama.
You are young
My insurance was fairly predictable with very minor increases up till Ronnie moved in in 1980. Since then, not 1 decrease and increases have followed college tuition increases since Ronnie went in.
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I love the gas tax for example.
Gas tax is US equivalent of the VAT tax in Canada. You get taxed at every stage of consumption and gas tax does the same in the US even if folks do not understand the taxes that were paid by business on that gas before it hit the retail market. Not sure about today but until at least the 1980's / 1990's the government was buying about 60% of Exxon's gas (local, state, and federal combined)
Problem with the gas tax for roads is the skimming and monopolistic controls. A road contractor low balls a 2 million dollar for say 1 million but is paid at least 20 million when the job is done. Drug dealers make those kinds of returns but is terrible use of revenue streams.
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It was supposed to be temporary.
Patriotism in action with the masses. SCOTUS says it is unconstitutional but get in a war and it becomes
"patriotic" and government gets hooked like a crack whore and can not go back to reasonable spending. Both parties use it R = GUNS = Military spending and D = BUTTER = Social programs from your old ECON 101 lectures and the Guns vs Butter discussions.
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