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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:50 pm to
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You got a problem with Baptists brah?


I think he was just commenting on the fact that 99.9% of the time statements like those from the OP come from Baptists.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:52 pm to
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99.9% of the time statements like those from the OP come from Baptists.


Spot on.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:52 pm to
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It's a spoon feed from a Catholic perspective so just be wary of that.

No doubt it is, as there is no defense from the Lutheran perspective provided.
I'll have to do some digging
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:52 pm to
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I love the nation of Israel.

Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:53 pm to
I'm sure there's a response, just don't recall what it is. Luther had many valid criticisms of the church for what it's worth, I'll grant him that. Many of those 95 have been rectified.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:53 pm to
No doubt. I've heard fellow Baptists say similar things. Sometimes I say it when creating banter between me and a Catholic I know.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Luther had many valid criticisms of the church for what it's worth, I'll grant him that. Many of those 95 have been rectified.

Yeah if he didn't there wouldn't have been reforms in the Catholic Church
The concept of indulgences seemed like it might lead to corruption, but ultimately every church has the issue of corruption/ill fit leadership because all are sinners. I've seen poor practice by officials at churches I've attended
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:57 pm to
Good Catholic-Baptist story:

My wife is Baptist, but not practicing. Her grandmother is hard-shell, Mississippi country, leads the choir in a 200 person church, Baptist.

When my wife and I got engaged, her mom called her grandmother to tell her. Her grandmother was really excited and asked where we were getting married. My mother in law told her the Catholic Church, and my wife’s grandmother hung up the phone.

I thought it was funny then, while my wife and mother in law took a little while longer to find the humor in it.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 9:58 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:59 pm to
Luther, had he had his way, would have remained Catholic. The time for reconciliation has come and there is space for it for those who follow the teachings of actual theologian, the real protestants, not the fake island ones that only abandoned the church so their King could get his rocks off with someone not his wife.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:01 pm to
My great Uncle married a Catholic. When he told my great grandmother that he was she started preaching to him about how he couldn't. I don't recall what denomination she was, but she was not happy
They got married anyway though. Were still married when he passed away a few years ago so I'd say it worked out ok
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:02 pm to
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abandoned the church so their King could get his rocks off with someone not his wife.

Church of England did nothing wrong. Henry needed a new bride for the royal line
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:03 pm to
Are you going to raise your kids in the Church? How's that going with the GMIL?

Speaking of Baptists I have some questions for OP.

Why do so many of your clergy wear business suits when they preach? Why have so few of them attended any kind of seminary? Why do they all publish self help and life advice books with huge pictures of their smiling faces on the covers and parade themselves on television?
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:05 pm to
During the engagement, my wife’s grandmother would get my wife alone and say things like, “You know they worship Mary!”
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:05 pm to
The crux of the Reformation wasn’t in the 95 theses. Luther and Calvin both said they would recognize the primacy of the papacy if the pope would affirm justification by faith alone. Of course that couldn’t be done since it would force the Catholics to scrap their sacrament system.

I’m a baptist btw, but I also understand that Catholics don’t worship Mary lol
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:08 pm to
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Church of England did nothing wrong.


At least the Lutherans were actually protesting something and fought a war for their rights. They had real theological complaints.

Anglicans and their offshoot Baptists and "Non-Denominational Evangelicals" haven't earned the right to bear the title of Protestant.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:10 pm to
Yea I'm aware of the solas, I'm just making reformation banter.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:10 pm to
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Why do so many of your clergy wear business suits when they preach? Why have so few of them attended any kind of seminary? Why do they all publish self help and life advice books with huge pictures of their smiling faces on the covers and parade themselves on television?


I think the suits just come from not having a traditional garb and wanting to look nice. The last of the questions stem from the type of church polity of baptists. Because baptists are congregational and somewhat decentralized, it leads to a lack of accountability for individual churches. It also leads to preachers going against accepted doctrine and theology for money or fame. A great example of this is Andy Stanley who’s bringing back a cousin of Marcionism. There’s no presbytery or diocese that can depose him, so his heresy will likely go unchecked.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:11 pm to
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Are you going to raise your kids in the Church? How's that going with the GMIL?


Yes. She wanted to, anyway, but getting married in the Church requires a commitment to raise them in the Church. I go to Mass every Sunday, so it’s not like I’m going out of my way to take a child with me. Unfortunately, part of mine and my wife’s agreement is that my wife won’t join the Church until after her grandmother passes in order to prevent a major rift in the family. So the grandmother is good until the good Lord calls her home.

But granny does still get upset when I’m late to holiday family gatherings because I go to Mass on those holidays.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:13 pm to
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granny does still get upset when I’m late to holiday family gatherings because I go to Mass on those holidays.


How terrible for her that she has a devout grandson in law.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:14 pm to
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Why do so many of your clergy wear business suits when they preach? Why have so few of them attended any kind of seminary? Why do they all publish self help and life advice books with huge pictures of their smiling faces on the covers and parade themselves on television?


Don't know if OP will answer but I'll try
Truth be told my dad was a Baptist preacher (not a pastor though). I never asked, but I assumed the suit was worn by him to sorta strip away the grandeur of the office, be closer to the people he's preaching to, show he is not above the other people there, and be more focused on the Lord less so the symbols of the office. Guess I should ask as he did attend some form of seminary being held by the churches. Was a long time ago though
As far as all going on tv and selling books, I can assure you not all do, my dad being one of those that does not. The people that do though and the ones that preach that you need to be better but are secretly giant pos are why I became frustrated with my church and quit going.
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