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re: Media using the term outbreak......

Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:04 pm to
So you believe the garbage numbers coming from Iran and China, but dont believe the Italian numbers. You dont really have a leg to stand on.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:48 am to
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So you believe the garbage numbers coming from Iran and China, but dont believe the Italian numbers. You dont really have a leg to stand on.

Who said that?

2,000 deaths in Italy is not dropping like flies. You’re the one picking and choosing numbers to believe.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:29 am to
It’s all relative. Hospitals have been overflowing with critical cases.

717 dead in 2 days and 1140 dead in 4 days is extremely abnormal.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:31 am to
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Who said that?


You cited the made up Iran and China numbers.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:50 am to
Your term was dropping like flies
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:52 am to
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You cited the made up Iran and China numbers.

I cited numbers for China, Iran and Italy which are widely accepted.

Then somehow you came up with the idea that I somehow didn’t believe the numbers in Italy that I had already referenced as fact. You’re doing some real mental gymnastics right now.
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
5,204 cases and 92 dead as of 17 MAR 2020
5,112- 56(recovered) 5,066 active known cases.

5,000ish cases out of 331,000,000 population. .0015 of the US population is currently known to be infected
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:20 pm to
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cited numbers for China, Iran which are widely accepted.


They are all they have given us. Doesn’t mean the are widely accepted as accurate. Probably way off actually.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:22 pm to
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Your term was dropping like flies



Over a 1000 dead in 3 days certainly qualifies for that.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:47 pm to
It's actually higher than that. It's about 1,000 a day even though for the first two months it was only around 4,900.

Today it's around 805 but in 6 hours it'll likely be close to 1,000 again.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:52 pm to
When about 150,000 people die a day normally. 1,000 isn’t dropping like flies.

Although numbers I’m looking at are around 600 today.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:46 pm to
Have you ever been around flies? It doesn’t have to be a billion of them to be pestering. Hundreds is bad enough.

That’s why I said it’s all relative. 350 a day in Italy for something that didn’t exist in Italy last March is “dropping like flies”. I can only imagine how high the daily numbers were for China. Probably in the 1000’s.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:24 am to
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

It resets every 24 hours so you can see just how many people are dying.

China is 100% lying about their numbers, so it'll be interesting to see if they can keep the propaganda going since leaks come out every day.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 9:34 am to
Are you claiming the China and iran numbers are made up for and reason other than political? They seem within the expected norm.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:30 am to
Straws, meet smokeyone.

Smokeyone, Since when do conservative southerners like yourself trust the communists? This has been the most interesting development in this crisis.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:23 am to
If they were underselling the numbers, the numbers would not be in line with the rest of the world.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:34 am to
6,439 critical patients world wide right now. 2,622 of which are in China. If you dont believe the chinese remove the data point from the equation.
So 3,8017 active critical cases worldwide, 2,060 are in Italy.

1,757 known verified cases outside of Italy if you dont believe china.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38191 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 12:29 pm to
Not necessarily.

Point is, In any other situation, you would struggle to accept that what the authoritarians were saying as truth. Suddenly, out of defense for a GOP president, you do a 180.

Even if that they say is true, it took them building a dozen hospitals and extreme quarantines to get it under control, 2 strategies we arent using.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 2:02 pm to
How is looking at data points political?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38191 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:43 pm to
Suddenly Trusting an untrustworthy enemy in an attempt to justify the shite job trump has done is political in nature.
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