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re: Man fatally shot after snatching girl from Walmart cart

Posted on 7/1/13 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10232 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 7:06 pm to
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Yes, it matters. Cops are only trained to shoot as a last resort. Loss of life is always to be avoided by the police, and shooting is a last resort.


I'm going to have to agree with PrivatePublic on this one. You snatch a kid and put a knife to her throat, you die as a first resort.
This post was edited on 7/1/13 at 7:08 pm
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
Middle TN
Member since Nov 2008
7404 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 7:10 pm to
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Considering the perpetrator's mental state, there seems to be little doubt he intended to harm the child. When he started the countdown, the negotiator's only course of effective action was to shoot him, in the head.


[KorbenDallasVoice] "Anybody else wanna negotiate?" [/KDV]
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 7:15 pm to
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I'm going to have to agree with PrivatePublic on this one. You snatch a kid and put a knife to her throat, you die as a first resort.

I don't disagree with the sentiment. But shooting a perp with a little kid in his arms would, I hope, be the last resort. I don't think that would be their first choice of action. In this case, that judgement was made that it was the best thing to do. Good for the cops for getting the child away safely.
This post was edited on 7/1/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63978 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 7:41 pm to
Great job by the police dept
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 8:38 pm to
I saw the video on the news. The dude was smooth and steady with his move when the nut bag got distracted.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 8:40 pm to
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OKC don't frick around do they


They have open carry north of the red river. Don't mess with them.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7812 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 8:56 pm to
Officer pulled a Zimmerman. Well done Sir!!
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19575 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 9:45 pm to
frick yes

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

OKC don't frick around do they



aww hell to the no. ain't nobody got time for that.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 10:23 pm to
Shoulda shot his knees, murder is never the answer, but you can't just let the sick bastard hurt the little girl. Gotta be tough when a decision like that needs to be made.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 10:44 pm to
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Shoulda shot his knees


Get the frick out of here - you can still slit someone's throat with bad knees. Much harder to do with hole in your brain.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 10:55 pm to
and you call yourself southern and a bama fan?
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 11:12 pm to
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quote:
Shoulda shot his knees


Get the frick out of here - you can still slit someone's throat with bad knees. Much harder to do with hole in your brain.

The pain would probably have caused him to drop the child. Regardless, if you feel like the best option is to shoot the guy holding a small child in his arms, I think you have to take him out and pray he doesn't move at the last minute and cause you to shoot the child.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 11:18 pm to
pink mist is the only solution when there is no room for error.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20541 posts
Posted on 7/1/13 at 11:23 pm to
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The pain would probably have caused him to drop the child


Or much, much worse.

Normally I'm all for trying to resolve these situations without anyone getting hurt. This isn't one of those times.

This guy wasn't coherent. He was counting down and could have cut this poor child at anytime with a lapse in what he was thinking (or lack of) at any time.

In my opinion, they did the right thing.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40976 posts
Posted on 7/2/13 at 9:17 am to
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