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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution

Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
That term is actually in the Urban Dictionary.
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:54 pm to
I gave a link earlier concerning the view that the earth is about 5-6 billion years old. Here it is again.... LINK

6000 years or 6 billion years, makes no difference to me.
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:55 pm to
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I call right wingers Jesus Krispies.


Why?
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:56 pm to
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I think there are leftists, moderates and right wingers in religion just as there are the divisions in politics. It is the religious right wing that I see opposing the teaching of evolution. Religious leftists and moderates universally approve of evolution.


I don't know of a theist which accepts the Godless view of Darwinism.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:59 pm to
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I disagree, it is a belief system. It's a philosophy of belief which shapes one's values and outlook on life.


That's your opinion but it isn't the dominant one, especially for people who describe themselves as atheistic.

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Our constitution doesn't guarantee the freedom to promote a atheistic philosophy in education, i.e., Darwinism.


It's the religious right that uses the term Darwinism. Everybody else uses The Theory of Evolution.

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No doubt it's fascinating, but full of fail.


Not to the majority of people who have adopted it as an explanation of how species of life come to be.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:00 am to
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That term is actually in the Urban Dictionary.



Oh, I know.. I was just saying that's what I prefer to call them.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:04 am to
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I don't know of a theist which accepts the Godless view of Darwinism.


Maybe not, but I know a shite ton of Christians that believe in Evolution.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:08 am to
I'm leaving so much out of my posts.

I meant to express my amazement that it was such a common term.

I'm getting tired. I "guess and suppose" I should be off to bed. (Not mocking, beejon, not mocking ) Have a good night fellas. Great discussion tonight. I learned a lot.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:19 am to
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I call right wingers Jesus Krispies.



Why?



I don't know, my friend (a christian who believes in evolution, btw) calls them that... it just seems to fit... I picture buddy christ from dogma on a box of rice krispies...

This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 12:24 am
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:27 am to
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I don't know, my friend (a christian who believes in evolution, btw) calls them that


This made me think of something else... Someone was talking about all these biologist who don't believe in evolution, but support it because of ridicule from their peers...

You know how many Christians do the same thing in regards to Evolution? A LOT!!!!!! That's maybe why you don't know any theist that believes in Darwinism as you like to call it, because they feel like you will ridicule them. We don't tell people they are going to Hell if they don't believe in Evolution.

As I posted earlier in this thread 73% of Americans claim to be Christian... only 31% believe in creationism.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 12:38 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:58 am to
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There isn't a part of the theory which allows for God.


That's stupid as shite.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:08 am to
This threads turned shitty, may god have mercy on your souls for not believing in evolution or the real age of the earth.
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:14 am to
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There isn't a part of the theory which allows for God.


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That's stupid as shite.


Example of Darwinistinc evolution which allows for God?

I await.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:52 am to
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Example of Darwinistinc evolution which allows for God?

I await.


God created life. Life evolves. Simple. Stop accepting the stupid rhetoric of whatever slimey snake oil salesman that gives your sermon.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 10:53 am
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:00 am to
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God created life.


Darwinists will quickly advise you that Darwinism isn't about abiogenesis.

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Life evolves.


Again, give an example where Darwinism involves anything but naturalistic events, i.e., give an example where Darwinism involves God at any level.

I await.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:29 am to
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Darwinists will quickly advise you that Darwinism isn't about abiogenesis.


Right wing buzzwords abound in your vernacular. There are no Darwinists except from the religious right perspective. Abiogenesis: the now discredited theory that living organisms can arise spontaneously from inanimate matter; spontaneous generation (from Dictionary.com). Some people from the Dark Ages thought rats spontaneously arose, for example. Very different from evolution.

I like you but your rhetoric is tiresome.

For the sake of keeping our exchanges interesting, let me ask you: Are you interested in knowing, in great detail, how God created life?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:34 am to
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Again, give an example where Darwinism involves anything but naturalistic events, i.e., give an example where Darwinism involves God at any level.


The a Theory of Evolution doesn't involve God. The Theory of Gravity doesn't involve God, either. Do you reject it? The Theory of Relativity? The Theory of Plate Tectonics?

In fact, not a single scientific theory involves God? Do you reject all of science?
Posted by beejon
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:38 am to
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There are no Darwinists except from the religious right perspective.


Sure there are Darwinists. The educational system is chock full of them.
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For the sake of keeping our exchanges interesting, let me ask you: Are you interested in knowing, in great detail, how God created life?


No, not really.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:46 am to
Beejon, you are incredibly misinformed about evolution and you quite frankly sound like a retard constantly bringing up Darwin, when we know so much more about evolution than he did. Please watch this link in its entirety, since it will put it in Layman's terms on on how evolution actually works:

Cosmos
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by beejon
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Beejon, you are incredibly misinformed about evolution and you quite frankly sound like a retard constantly bringing up Darwin, when we know so much more about evolution than he did. Please watch this link in its entirety, since it will put it in Layman's terms on on how evolution actually works:


I'm certainly aware of the personal attacks against those who oppose Darwinism, in fact I expect it. I've had very few exchanges with Darwinist evolutionists who do not use personal attacks and/or profanity in their responses.

That aside, because it's really meaningless in the discussion, it's a fact that Darwin is the poster child of evolution. Darwin is exalted in schools and there's nary mention of his errors, his mistakes, his failures in his series of guesses and suppositions. Darwinistic evolution works without any input other than through naturalistic means therefore it's inherently atheistic. That's the problem.

I enjoy cosmos. One of my favorite series.
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