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re: I need a website with unbiased news coverage.

Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:32 pm to
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Laffing out loud at anyone suggesting news sources that are owned by the global conglomerates.

Some that I pick and choose from, always with a bit of skepticism:

Natural News
Free and Equal
Collective Evolution
International Human Press
Truth Theory



Posted by DanMullins4Life
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:33 pm to
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Natural News
Free and Equal
Collective Evolution
International Human Press
Truth Theory



You realize all of these news sources are also owned by the global conglomerate. You'd only be a naive fool to believe that they aren't.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:36 pm to
When the OP asked for unbiased news sources, I dont think he was asking for sites that simply endorse the most outside the box story surrounding any given event.

For instance, going on about "big pharm" anytime a pharm story comes up doesnt make you unbiased. It makes you exactly the opposite.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:39 pm to
The kind of sites ST reads are the kind that simply go against the mainstream narrative, manufacture stories based on that idea and call it news.

Conspiracy theories and manufactured questions from nothing isnt news.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 pm to
I challenge you to apply what you just said to one news article on the main page of Natural New's site.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:58 pm to
"Why Walmart and Costco shrimp prices are so low - and why you should never buy from them again."

"YOU are the secret weapon of food marketing! - Find out how GMO, fluoride, heavy metal toxins and vaccines make you stupid and vulnerable to Big Food marketing tactics"

Enjoy your Aspergers, ST, seriously.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:03 pm to
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I challenge you to apply what you just said to one news article on the main page of Natural New's site.


LINK

LINK

LINK

What do I win?
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:05 pm to
Search naked news. It's the most unbiased; especially since you won't even be paying attention to what the anchors are saying.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:05 pm to
Hell, it appears that site is almost entirely driven by the premise that GMOs are dangerous, a claim refuted by literally every legitimate public and private scientific research conducted on them.

The sites very existence thus proves my point. It creates stories based on debunked ideas.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:19 pm to
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Hell, it appears that site is almost entirely driven by the premise that GMOs are dangerous, a claim refuted by literally every legitimate public and private scientific research conducted on them.

The sites very existence thus proves my point. It creates stories based on debunked ideas.


Not to mention its bullshite studies which have been thoroughly refuted for...oh, a decade or so.

"One of the first incidents occurred in 1999, when Nature published a paper on potential toxic effects of Bt maize in butterflies. The paper produced a public uproar and demonstrations against Bt maize; however by 2001 several follow-up studies had concluded that "the most common types of Bt maize pollen are not toxic to monarch larvae in concentrations the insects would encounter in the fields." and had "brought that particular question to a close."[72] After that event, "some scientists were dismayed that a single paper with preliminary data gave so much ammunition to anti-GMO activists and caused an expensive diversion of resources to calm the scare."[72] This has led such scientists to patrol the scientific literature and react strongly, both publicly and privately, to discredit conclusions they view as flawed, in order to prevent flawed conclusions from again causing public outcry and regulatory action.[72] A 2013 Scientific American article noted that there are a "tiny minority" of biologists who have published concerns about GM food, and said that scientists who support the use of GMOs in food production are often overly dismissive of them.[73]"

And they're still fricking talking about the goddamn butterflies.
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:42 pm to
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I need a website with unbiased news coverage.quote:BBC I didn't know TBird has his own news site.



Yea it has a Yellow Sticker on the laptop he uses to read it.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:48 pm to
No such thing. Just deciding which stories to report has a bias. Best thing is to use several, and stay away from the ones that are obviously biased like MSNBC and Fox (unless you are into that)
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:49 pm to
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What do I win?


Well one, you're disqualified for not playing by the rules, I said news articles on the main page, which means I was referring to the ones bolded on the main page, not in the archive.

But it doesn't matter.

What about the links you provided coincide with what you said?

For instance, the Wal-Mart shrimp article talks about slave labor, which is why the cost of the shrimp are so low.

It's using a report from a legitimate agency to share the news that trafficking working and slave labor in Thailand are used to keep costs down.

What is manufactured and phony about that news?
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Best thing is to use several


This right here.

What I usually do is cross reference -- define the extremes, adjust for slanted coverage and use your own intuition to determine what is right or wrong.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Not to mention its bullshite studies which have been thoroughly refuted for...oh, a decade or so.

"One of the first incidents occurred in 1999, when Nature published a paper on potential toxic effects of Bt maize in butterflies. The paper produced a public uproar and demonstrations against Bt maize; however by 2001 several follow-up studies had concluded that "the most common types of Bt maize pollen are not toxic to monarch larvae in concentrations the insects would encounter in the fields." and had "brought that particular question to a close."[72] After that event, "some scientists were dismayed that a single paper with preliminary data gave so much ammunition to anti-GMO activists and caused an expensive diversion of resources to calm the scare."[72] This has led such scientists to patrol the scientific literature and react strongly, both publicly and privately, to discredit conclusions they view as flawed, in order to prevent flawed conclusions from again causing public outcry and regulatory action.[72] A 2013 Scientific American article noted that there are a "tiny minority" of biologists who have published concerns about GM food, and said that scientists who support the use of GMOs in food production are often overly dismissive of them.[73]"

And they're still fricking talking about the goddamn butterflies.


Listen, I added that any of the sites I visit I view with skepticism.

I've read articles on Natural News and concluded them by saying "bullshite".

Imagine someone saying they're a Alfred Hitchcock fan, and then questioning them with every single moment of film he produced. Surely they will not be a fan of each and every second.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:52 pm to
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What I usually do is cross reference -- define the extremes, adjust for slanted coverage and use your own intuition to determine what is right or wrong.


Dudebroman, I totally do the same!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281858 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:53 pm to
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unbiased news coverage.


Doesn't exist.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:00 pm to
Newsnow. Co .Uk ... get multiple sources for the same topic and draw an educated conclusion on yourcown.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Lazypool
Kansas
Member since Jun 2013
243 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:01 pm to
Nothing wrong with listening to all of them in my opinion...in fact I would hope it would be encouraged.

Just have to be aware that they are turning a profit and are catering to whatever their base is.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:05 pm to
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Nothing wrong with listening to all of them in my opinion...in fact I would hope it would be encouraged.

Just have to be aware that they are turning a profit and are catering to whatever their base is.



When you listen to all of the big news sources you're being directed in a certain direction, usually one that leads you away from the truth.

So dissecting and analyzing 4 sources with your intuition doesn't do you much good if all 4 sources are leading you in the wrong direction.
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