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Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:40 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:40 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Appreciate it. Going to see what the best plan of action is this weekend. Have a damn wedding to attend on Friday.
I'm only 6-7 hours drive from the perimeter areas. Need to see what has been established and what makes sense.
Might have to be next weekend. I should bring pounds of gummies for people to relax lol
I'm only 6-7 hours drive from the perimeter areas. Need to see what has been established and what makes sense.
Might have to be next weekend. I should bring pounds of gummies for people to relax lol
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:23 am to Armymann50
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1870
The papal states vote in favor of union with Italy. The capital is moved from Florence to Rome.
A lot went into this event happening. The fall of the Western Roman Empire quickly saw the successor states of Italy fall into warring city states. The Kingdom of Lombard more or less was on top, but large chunks of Italy were effectively out of their control. That is when Charlemagne put this thang down and led a lightning conquest of Italy by his Frankish forces, establishing himself as the new Roman Emperor, and bringing about one of the all time great What Ifs in the history of the world.
Charlemagne being crowned Emperor created a "tense" situation with the Eastern Roman Empire to put it mildly. Charlemagne ruled Western Europe while Empress Irene ruled the Eastern Roman Empire. Irene, who was a brilliant, if highly ruthless, woman who had seized the throne by assassinating the other male heirs, imprisoning her brother (the Emperor at the time), blinding him, and then proclaiming herself Empress because a blind man couldn't rule.
So, naturally these two absolute forces of nature... started to negotiate to marry. Irene was smart enough to realize that the Baghdad Caliphate was too strong for the remnants of the ERE to resist forever without aid. Charlemagne was intrigued by the thought reuniting the Roman Empire... which would have allowed him to change the rules of Succession and leave his vast lands to just one son instead of having his lands divided among his heirs.
And... Irene was deposed, Charlemagne died, and his lands were split up among his heirs. Within a handful of generations Italy and Western Europe were split up into small warring states.
Several city states and countries tried to reunite Italy, with the Papal States (land directly under the control of the Pope) being a major player in those attempts. But no one could pull it off. Italy is notoriously a pain in the behind to conquer (it took the Romans centuries) and only three people pulled off a rapid conquest. Charlemagne, Napoleon, and... the ruler of Piedmont, Italy?
Yep. They effectively united the country (and in doing so actually lost most of their political power as the capitol was rapidly moved away from their lands) and the hammered Papal States were presented with a fait accompli. Vote to join the new Kingdom of Italy, or watch as the Piedmont forces leveled the church lands to the ground and absorbed them anyway.
The Pope got to lord it over Vatican City and enjoy diplomatic rights, Piedmont moved the capitol to Rome and united Italy once and for all.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:36 am to teamjackson
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there were bodies everywhere in trees and shite
I don't understand this. And I'm not in any way trying to be insensitive — this is what we were dealing with in Tuscaloosa during the F5 tornado, but how did this happen in an inland hurricane? Flood waters combined and funneled into narrow valleys?
We were in Ashville last year, and it's heartbreaking to see those same places now in images. From what I've seen, all roads in and out were closed for a good while.
Sounds like western North Carolina in general may be dealing with Katrina-level devastation when this shakes out.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:13 am to paperwasp
Not insensitive at all. I believe he meant the flood waters were high enough in the valleys "hollers" gorges, that residents who were washed away with their properties ended up in the trees further down the mountain.
Their properties were up on the hillside, water washed it down and the residents' bodies ended up in the trees at the bottom.
Nightmare
Think: It all came crumbling down and settle at the bottom.
ETA:
Google the pictures of the hospital in Erwin. They evacuated to the roof. It was several stories high to begin with. Employees and patients are up at the very top. Gives you an idea of how high the water was.
Also Google I26 from Erwin to Asheville.
It took them what felt like 25 years to build that stretch over the mountain, all for it to be swept away in 10 minutes.
This has never been seen before.
Over 100 counted so far.
Their properties were up on the hillside, water washed it down and the residents' bodies ended up in the trees at the bottom.
Nightmare
Think: It all came crumbling down and settle at the bottom.
ETA:
Google the pictures of the hospital in Erwin. They evacuated to the roof. It was several stories high to begin with. Employees and patients are up at the very top. Gives you an idea of how high the water was.
Also Google I26 from Erwin to Asheville.
It took them what felt like 25 years to build that stretch over the mountain, all for it to be swept away in 10 minutes.
This has never been seen before.
Over 100 counted so far.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:01 pm to teamjackson
I've been perusing places we've visited in the past just to see how they're making it (and if they're still there), and ran across this.
These moments are always such a dichotomy between unimaginable tragedy and the uplifting nature of human spirit.
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These moments are always such a dichotomy between unimaginable tragedy and the uplifting nature of human spirit.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:12 pm to paperwasp
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I don't understand this.
In my past studies of the Tao, one verse dealt with water being the most powerful force on Earth yet it seeks the lowliest places on Earth. As example look at the 2 events that transformed the Robber Barron, Andrew Carnegie, to philanthropist Peter in life when his legacy was greatly tarnished.
Both involved unnecessary death but the Johnstown flood killed thousands when water sought the lowest place after the dam failed.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:50 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:07 pm to Arksulli
Wow did you write all of that? Very interesting either way.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:21 pm to Arksulli
You're spot on about the pain Italy has been to conquer. Even today, the states of Italy vary drastically and there is some "bad blood" between a few of them.
Southern Italians are pretty different than the middle and northerners.
Been lucky enough to have driven from the head to the boot with stops in between (From Switzerland to Milan, Pisa, Rome, Florence, Assissi, Naples, Sorrento, Amalfi, etc) and imagining traversing the landscape/terrain in ancient times makes me sick.
How they did it, I still refuse to believe it lol.
Leading to my next point: roads. The network and designs of roads in ancient times is mind blowing. Along with the plumbing and water supply (aqueducts).
One of my time machine choices would be to travel a section of the Silk Road during its heyday
Southern Italians are pretty different than the middle and northerners.
Been lucky enough to have driven from the head to the boot with stops in between (From Switzerland to Milan, Pisa, Rome, Florence, Assissi, Naples, Sorrento, Amalfi, etc) and imagining traversing the landscape/terrain in ancient times makes me sick.
How they did it, I still refuse to believe it lol.
Leading to my next point: roads. The network and designs of roads in ancient times is mind blowing. Along with the plumbing and water supply (aqueducts).
One of my time machine choices would be to travel a section of the Silk Road during its heyday
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:14 am to teamjackson
Yep drove a car thruItaly by way of switzerland those hills and valleys arwe awsume.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:47 am to Armymann50
Good morning.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:51 am to Lexag
good morning 
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:57 am to pioneerbasketball
I’m going back to sleep. 
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:10 am to Lexag
Today in History: October 3
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State of Gojoseon (modern-day Korea) is founded by Dangun Wanggeom during the reign of Chinese Emperor Yao
42 BC
First Battle of Philippi: Triumvirs Mark Antony and Octavian fight an indecisive battle with Caesar's assassins Brutus and Cassius.
1776
Congress borrows five million dollars to halt the rapid depreciation of paper money in the colonies.
1940
U.S. Army adopts airborne, or parachute, soldiers. Airborne troops were later used in World War II for landing troops in combat and infiltrating agents into enemy territory.
1941
The Maltese Falson, starring Humphrey Bogart as detective Sam Spade, opens.
1952
The UK successfully conducts a nuclear weapon, becoming the world's third nuclear power
1955
Two children's television programs and a family sitcom all destined to become classics debut: Captain Kangaroo, Mickey Mouse Club, and The Dick Van Dyke Show.
1990
After 40 years of division, East and West Germany are reunited as one nation.
1993
Battle of Mogadishu, in which 18 US soldiers and some 1,000 Somalis are killed during an attempt to capture officials of the warlord Mohamed Farrah Aidid's organization.
1995
Former pro football star and actor O.J. Simpson is acquitted of the murders of his wife Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, ending what many called "the Trial of the Century.".
2008
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to purchase distressed assets of financial corporations and supply cash directly to banks to keep them afloat.
2018
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2021
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2022
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Today in History: Born on October 3
1916
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1941
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1954
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JOTD
A French, a German and an Italian spy are captured one day.
The captors grab the French spy, take him to the next room and tie his hands behind a chair.They then proceed to torture him for 2 hours before he finally cracks, answers all questions and gives up all of his secrets.
The captors then grab the German spy. They tie his hands behind the chair in the next room too and torture him for 4 hours before he finally cracks and tells them what they want to know.
They then grabbed the Italian spy. Once again, they tie his hands behind the chair and begin torturing.4 hours go by and the spy isn’t talking. Then 8 hours, then 16 and after 24 hours they give up and throw him back into the cell.
The German and French spy are impressed and ask him how he managed to not talk.
The Italian spy says, ” I wanted to, but I couldn’t move my hands.”
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:36 am to Armymann50
Morning all
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:24 am to kywildcatfanone
makin a pot of redbeans
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:29 am to Armymann50
Good morning
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:32 am to Rockbrc
Morning
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:07 am to Armymann50
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1995 O.J. Simpson is acquitted
Holy smokes, that was almost 30 years ago?!
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:17 am to teamjackson
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One of my time machine choices would be to travel a section of the Silk Road during its heyday
It is unfortunate that widespread unrest in the region would make that difficult today.
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