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re: Finally replacing my Windows XP computer(s)
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:35 am to Tidemeister
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:35 am to Tidemeister
I have been torn going between a nice spec or powerful enough cheap laptop.
I am leaning going cheap, looking at this with SSD
Acer Aspire
I am leaning going cheap, looking at this with SSD
Acer Aspire
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:48 am to TeLeFaWx
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For a desktop, build your own at Fry's and never question otherwise. For a laptop, get an HP at Best Buy for like $700-$800. Go the cheap route at your own risk.
Long time computer builder and website testing contributor here. Real world observations:
1. The average consumer doesn't need a high end machine. A standard box store mid grade is good enough for surfing, word processing, and the occasional spreadsheet. This covers about 75% of the computer using public. The most common programs that would push most consumers into needing more would be gaming or Photoshop, or a real need to have many applications running at one time.
2. You cannot build a machine cheaper than you can buy one, even with great deals from Newegg, Fry's, etc. Everybody THINKS they can but you can't - volume purchasing power is just too great. If you think you can build a great machine for less than $500, post your equipment list and links to the parts online, I'd like to see it. You can build an integrated mobo computer cheaper than that, but not a mid-tier or higher. Decent mobo is about $75-100, 16gb memory is about $100, and any mid-tier CPU will be $125-150... and you are already over $300 for just the core of your system. That doesn't include a decent power supply, drives, card readers, case, mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc etc etc. You simply can't build a decent system for less than $450-500.
3. There ARE plenty of good reasons for building one yourself, though. You can get great components that will last longer by building yoru system yourself. And of course, there is always the satisfaction aspect of doing it yourself. Just remember that YOU ARE THE TROUBLESHOOTING DEPARTMENT. I chose to build my wn computer and always have. But it's not for everyone. Buying is much much faster.
4. The best laptop bargains right now IMHO are off lease mid grade systems. I would look at gov't contract off lease used computers... maybe something like an HP Elitebook 8460 or similar. Many of these never even get undocked and have very light wear. You can get an HP 8460 with 14" screen, I5 CPU, 8gb memory, 1tB drive or 256gb SSD, Win 7/10 for less than $200 in very good condition. Best buy out there imho and the Elitebook or similar level of quality is words above what you'd find at WalMart. And repairable if ever needed. Dell and Lenovo both have similar quality lines. "Inexpensive" doesn't have to mean "cheap". Off lease "used" doesn't have to mean "bad condition". Just buy through Amazon or someone that will stand behind them reasonably.
5. Do buy the best you can afford. Set your budget as high as you can afford... and do the best you can within that budget. This applies equally to systems AND components if you build your own. There are systems out there for every price level that are effective.
JMHO.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:01 pm to iglass
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2. You cannot build a machine cheaper than you can buy one, even with great deals from Newegg, Fry's, etc. Everybody THINKS they can but you can't - volume purchasing power is just too great. If you think you can build a great machine for less than $500, post your equipment list and links to the parts online, I'd like to see it. You can build an integrated mobo computer cheaper than that, but not a mid-tier or higher. Decent mobo is about $75-100, 16gb memory is about $100, and any mid-tier CPU will be $125-150... and you are already over $300 for just the core of your system. That doesn't include a decent power supply, drives, card readers, case, mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc etc etc. You simply can't build a decent system for less than $450-500.
You can't build one cheaper for sure, but is it easier to upgrade? Everything seems to take that Apple look to it now. Sleek towers for sure, but can I upgrade or leave out stuff I don't want? Iunno. I mean I haven't even looked at buying a PC in so long, I honestly have no idea if I can get a PC from one of the big manufacturers exactly how I want it.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:14 pm to Tidemeister
This is on a 7½ year old HP Pavilion desktop running Windows 7.
I have $50 a month fiber optic Internet service with unlimited data.
I have $50 a month fiber optic Internet service with unlimited data.

Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:06 am to Tidemeister
I bought my current laptop a year ago this month. It seems to be a watered down version of what you're looking at, for almost $150 less. It was super cheap, but I figured any brand new laptop in 2016 would be good enough to run League of Legends and dick around on message boards and whatnot.
Immediately out of the box it was the worst computer I'd ever owned. I have immensely and always regretted this purchase. If you're going to buy an HP laptop from Walmart, well… just don't do it. Not for 450 dollars. That thing's going to last you probably two or three years, and they're not going to be good years. If you paid over two thousand dollars for a computer in the early 00's and it lasted you that long, I'd say you definitely got your money's worth out of it. Why deviate from what worked before? Some things are worth splurging on.
Immediately out of the box it was the worst computer I'd ever owned. I have immensely and always regretted this purchase. If you're going to buy an HP laptop from Walmart, well… just don't do it. Not for 450 dollars. That thing's going to last you probably two or three years, and they're not going to be good years. If you paid over two thousand dollars for a computer in the early 00's and it lasted you that long, I'd say you definitely got your money's worth out of it. Why deviate from what worked before? Some things are worth splurging on.
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