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FDA Has Approved Ketamine for Depression
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:23 am
I thought some of the folks here may be interested to see this. The FDA has approved the use of Ketamine as a nasal spray to fight depression. This seems reckless to me. Ketamine is a dangerous drug. Especially considering there are natural alternatives out there that do a much better job at this. Problem? There's no money for the pharma companies in a drug that is both found naturally, and doesn't cause other health related issues when you take it.
What are some of the other health related issues with Ketamine?
This drug is so dangerous they won't even allow you to take it home. In fact, several people they conducted the human trials on died.
The article was written up by CNN. Before I get tarred and feathered in here let me explain. CNN is a good place to find stories so ridiculous they make you want to pull your hair out.
Anyways, it's gotten to the point where you can't trust one single goddamn thing with these people say. They suppress the good medicines and force feed people poison.
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What are some of the other health related issues with Ketamine?
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The drug label will contain a "boxed warning" to alert patients to the risk of "sedation, and difficulty with attention, judgment and thinking (dissociation), abuse and misuse, and suicidal thoughts and behaviors after administration of the drug," the agency said in its announcement.
Because of these risks, patients must be monitored for at least two hours after being given the drug
This drug is so dangerous they won't even allow you to take it home. In fact, several people they conducted the human trials on died.
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In clinical trials, six patients who were taking the drug died, three from suicide, but FDA background materials reviewed by the advisory committee that recommended approval last month said, "It is difficult to consider these deaths as drug-related."
The article was written up by CNN. Before I get tarred and feathered in here let me explain. CNN is a good place to find stories so ridiculous they make you want to pull your hair out.
Anyways, it's gotten to the point where you can't trust one single goddamn thing with these people say. They suppress the good medicines and force feed people poison.
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This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 8:24 am
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:24 am to BoarEd
never tried it.....wait.....wrong thread 
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:27 am to BoarEd
The special K will break you out of the doldrums, no doubt.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:27 am to BoozeDawg
They say they can't relate the deaths of three trial patients who committed suicide while on this drug, yet in the paragraph just above that one they list "thoughts of suicide" as one of the side effects.
This should be considered an outrage. IMO only a fool would allow their doctor to put them on this shite.
This should be considered an outrage. IMO only a fool would allow their doctor to put them on this shite.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:29 am to BoarEd
I have a friend off mine who is a writer and he does K....ALL the time. its nuts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:31 am to BoozeDawg
No offense to your friend or you, but he sounds like an idiot.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:43 am to BoarEd
everyone has their thing.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:57 am to BoozeDawg
This is true
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:52 am to TheHarahanian
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The special K will break you out of the doldrums, no doubt.
no chance to fall into the k hole 
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:19 am to BoarEd
Ketamine has a negative connotation because it's your rave/show/festy drug.
From what I've researched, it's a low dosage application. Long term effect is no different than the long term effect of painkillers.
Honestly, I think it's a new avenue for big pharma to capitalize on the gen pop.
From what I've researched, it's a low dosage application. Long term effect is no different than the long term effect of painkillers.
Honestly, I think it's a new avenue for big pharma to capitalize on the gen pop.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:12 am to teamjackson
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Long term effect is no different than the long term effect of painkillers.
That is about as bad as it gets IMO.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:51 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
Yeah, no doubt. I think the Strickler family is about to lose everything over that shite. It was found out that they had been devoting resources to find ways to make their opiates more addictive for the public and were bribing doctors to prescribe more and more of it. They're essentially directly responsible for the opiod epidemic we are currently facing.
Being "no more addictive than pain killers" is a bad thing.
Being "no more addictive than pain killers" is a bad thing.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:00 pm to BoarEd
Most doctors will be hesitant to prescribe this to patients. It may be effective for people who are chronically depressed and got poor results from SSRI's and tricyclic antidepressants. I started taking Welbutrin a year ago with minimal results but my doctor prescribed Cymbalta and I feel like a new man. I doubt that Ketamine will be a go to for most mental health professionals.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:58 pm to BoarEd
I have been keeping up with this for over a year. Ketamine is a last resort treatment for severe cases, for those that are contemplating suicide.
Its never claimed to be more than 50 per cent effective. But for those 50 per cent its a God-send. Some people have described it as having their mind completely rebooted and no longer have suicidal thoughts. But for some it does not work.
So the question is if you have 1000 people that are contemplating suicide and you know you can resolve half of them with this treatment....isn't 500 worth it? You can still treat the other 500 with other treatments.
Its never claimed to be more than 50 per cent effective. But for those 50 per cent its a God-send. Some people have described it as having their mind completely rebooted and no longer have suicidal thoughts. But for some it does not work.
So the question is if you have 1000 people that are contemplating suicide and you know you can resolve half of them with this treatment....isn't 500 worth it? You can still treat the other 500 with other treatments.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:44 pm to jeffsdad
There are better options.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 5:32 am to BoarEd
There are better options than one that "cures" 50%?
Posted on 3/8/19 at 9:37 am to BoarEd
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They say they can't relate the deaths of three trial patients who committed suicide while on this drug, yet in the paragraph just above that one they list "thoughts of suicide" as one of the side effects.
I hate to be that guy, but just by making a cursory glance:
They're treating people with depression, who are far more likely to commit suicide than people who don't experience depression so that's pretty normal. However, with how our government works drug companies have to put any side effects that could potentially be considered, which is okay.
But if you think this bolsters your argument because depressed people commit suicide, I think you might need a new argument.
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