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re: FBI still can't find motive in Vegas Shooting report says

Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:43 pm to
Downside is everyone is home tomorrow, but we will have fun!

I do enjoy our Midwestern Klan around here
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:47 pm to
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Klan


Whoa buddy, bad optics. Let's be Knights. Knights of the Golden Circle.

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During the American Civil War, some Southern sympathizers in the Union or Northern states, such as Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Iowa, were accused of belonging to the Knights of the Golden Circle, and in some cases, such as that of Lambdin P. Milligan, they were imprisoned for their activities.


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Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:50 pm to
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But what did they gain from killing so many people?


Psychological warfare can take many different forms, and can take everyone's mind off of certain things that the government does.

They generally want populations to focus on the "big 3". Nationalism, family and politics. Large families, affinity for your own country and petty political squabbles (equality, as an example) keep the population occupied and take their attention off of things that actually matter.

Mass murder and terrorism are both adored by the deep state. These are the types of things that keep people talking for days, weeks, months and in this case for years. Citizens who make these issues political take a lot of pressure off of the government, their puppets, to perform. It hyper focuses the entire country on a single topic.

They are still constructing the narrative for Paddock, but they will in the future to possibly further a political idea. Maybe even say that he found some loopholes to purchase his firearm.

My guess is gun control.

They've already started to put down some breadcrumbs.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:52 pm to
I can go for Knight's. Sry, my Harrison, AR experience was kicking in there. I love all people though.

Any chance Paddock didn't fire one round and he was placed there?
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:58 pm to
There was a break up of Golden Circle operations in Indiana during the war
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While most of the state was decidedly pro-Union, a group of Southern sympathizers known as the Knights of the Golden Circle had a strong presence in southern Indiana. The group proved enough of a threat that General Lew Wallace, commander of Union forces in the region, spent considerable time countering their activities. By June 1863, the group was successfully broken up. Many Golden Circle members were arrested without formal charges

There was also the denial of habeus corpus to those arrested.
Some of the members of the assembly called the governor a dictator over this, and a refusal to let pro-confederate news sources write about it
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:58 pm to
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My guess is gun control.


I don't think the Vegas shooting was staged or influenced by anyone in a nefarious, conspiratorial way but I do think that it was used toward political ends, increased gun control, just like the Stoneman Douglas shooting in a Reichstag fire kind of way. It was organized, well choreographed, and very energetic. Both times it failed.

Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:59 pm to
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I do think that it was used toward political ends, increased gun control, just like the Stoneman Douglas shooting in a Reichstag fire kind of way.

Theres no arguing that it wasn't used after the fact for political reasons. That's the nature of politics. Anything can be a tool to further an agenda
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:01 am to
Right, sure. I guess I mean the degree to which it was used seemed especially artificial and contrived compared to what we usually see. It was really ham fisted. I'm a traditional Republican in the sense that I love progressivism, I just want them to put it in just a little more gently./s
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 12:02 am
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:05 am to
The coverage and calls for gun control have become more rapid and the sort of confidence among many that gun control is the solution increased with the greater and greater coverage of shootings.
Honestly, if you were the government how would you convince the populace to give up the arms if that was your goal? You'd stage something more than likely.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:16 am to
I get what you're saying but I don't think they need to orchestrate it, at least not directly.

They fracture society enough by destroying the family and the church, uproot and deconstruct people's identities, assault their minds constantly with toxic ideas, ply them with drugs and pornography, and a few of them will inevitably break - especially the young. It's a useful byproduct of the system they're creating in that they can use the problems that result as fuel to further the process. They're creating the conditions that cause these shootings and then using the shootings to create even more of the conditions.

They don't need to give some guy a gun to plan one of these things, they're doing it on a macro scale.

This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 12:17 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:16 am to
Y'all see that Illinios, on top of a FOID card, is now trying to pass legislation to include social media checks for approval/renewal?
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:17 am to
You are furked if they find your rant profile.
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:19 am to
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They don't need to give some guy a gun to plan one of these things, they're doing it on a macro scale.

No they certainly don't. If they wanted to speed things up though they wouldn't have to wait for someone to crack.
At this point with the amount of drugs, pron, and as you said specifically, the death of the family unit, you get people who lose it
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:19 am to
Lmao. What they don't know, won't hurt me :)
Posted by thatguy45
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:20 am to
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FOID card, is now trying to pass legislation to include social media checks for approval/renewal?

I know Maryland has a red flag law now where if your doctor, the police, or a family member think youre mentally ill, they can file a report and your guns can be taken before the case goes any further
Someone already got killed over it
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 12:21 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:22 am to
If they want them, they can come, and try to take them. Not happening Jose.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:23 am to
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If they wanted to speed things up though they wouldn't have to wait for someone to crack.


PBS News Hour today had a snippet where Judy Woodward sat down with three Governors at a forum to defend the legitimacy of the democratic process. The governor of Maryland was damn near pleading for people to trust in democracy again. If you told me that would happen in 2010 I wouldn't have believed it. Accelerationism will be the death of this system.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:23 am to
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SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WEEK) — A new bill would require the Illinois State Police to check the social media accounts of current or potential firearm owners.

House Bill 888, introduced by state Rep. Daniel Didech (D-Buffalo Grove) would require applying for a Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID) in Illinois to submit a list of their social media accounts to the state police.

State police would then check “to determine if there is any information that would disqualify the person from obtaining or require revocation of a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification Card.”

The bill’s language does not specify what type of information would be considered “disqualifying.”

The bill was introduced by Didech in concert with House Bill 887, which seeks to close a loophole which allows convicted stalkers to come to Illinois to purchase a gun.

“These bills will give us additional tools to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of dangerous people, while respecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners,” said Didech. “I look forward to working with my colleagues in the coming months to pass these and other bills that will reduce gun violence and make our community safer.”


Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:32 am to
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Daniel Didech


Of course he is
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