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re: Einstein's general relativity theory is questioned but still stands for now

Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:45 pm to
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So why would any scientist "hope" that GR doesn't apply in extreme gravity wells?


I personally think they’re hoping that there’s more to classical physics than GR. That Einstein missed something. I think they’re in for a big disappointment.

There’s just no reason to think that String Theory isn’t the bridge between classical physics and the quantum world. Our only hope of understanding the latter is to discover how quantum mechanics becomes classical physics in the macro world, so to speak.

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Super massive black holes still warp spacetime just the same as a white dwarf, right?


Right, and just the same as anything with mass does. What makes black holes unique is their ability to contain even massless particles such as photons. If we can discover how it does that we may be able to understand what gravity is.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:52 pm to
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The NG piece just seemed less disparaging.


True. Sorry if my dander gets up when someone disparages GR. I just think it defines the classical world of physics as well as we’ll ever be able to and we need to focus on the quantum world since the classical world is made up of it.
Posted by CivilTiger83
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:19 am to
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In theory that’s already been done. String Theory meshes the two together very well. Of course, we don’t currently have a way to detect strings or their effects. However, most physicists accept ST and it seems to be only a matter of time before we’ll see applications of the theory.


So string theory isn't currently measurable or testable correct?
Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:48 pm to
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So string theory isn't currently measurable or testable correct?



This is too long to quote, so I'll post this old link here :


Scientists find a practicle test for string theory


Phys.Org 2014
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:46 pm to
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String theory is infamous as an eloquent theoretical framework to understand all forces in the universe —- a so-called "theory of everything" —- that can't be tested with current instrumentation because the energy level and size scale to see the effects of string theory are too extreme.


A Planck length is 1.6 x 10^-35 meters (the number 16 preceded by 34 zeroes and a decimal point) — an incomprehensibly small scale that is implicated in various aspects of physics. A “string” is a one-dimensional particle that is a quintillion times smaller than the Planck length. We can hope to see the effect of strings, as in the experiment talked about in the link, but direct detection may never be possible.
Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 8/1/19 at 3:59 pm to
I hope it is possible. Probably not in our lifetimes, but 50 years ago cell phones and apps like Skype would have been called science fiction.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:06 am to
fun fact...

we know more about space than we know about how the human brain functions... If you want a good read try Michio Kaku's (astrophysicist, cosmologist) book on the human brain. It is pretty cool stuff. He is really good at communicating complex things down to a layman level.
Posted by Trumansfangs
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Posted on 8/2/19 at 4:10 pm to
He's a funny guy, but as a layman I'm pretty good at understanding complex things.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 5:19 pm to
David Eagleman’s Brain and Behavior is a rich source of knowledge, too.
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