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re: Duck Dynasty and the great pussification of America
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
'Murica
That is all.
That is all.
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:47 am to Stonehog
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Equating homosexuality to bestiality is hate speech.
It's actually not. Phil is saying that homosexuality and beastiality are both sinful acts, as supported by what's written in the Bible. He is not condemning anyone. It's not our place to cast judgement on anyone. Only God can do that. But making a statement that is supported by Scripture is not hate speech, no matter how hard you try to make it appear that way.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:47 am to cas4t
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He didn't say anything to degrade them
Bestiality?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:47 am to BluegrassBelle
It is funny to compare this reaction to that of the reaction a decade ago when the Dixie Chicks made a statement in protest of the impending Iraqi invasion. The same conservative faces that are coming to the defense of Phil under the guise of freedom of speech mercilessly attacked the Dixie Chicks and called for boycotts of their songs on country music radio.
We are a country of hypocrites.
We are a country of hypocrites.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:47 am to cas4t
Here's the thing there are way more religious rednecks than there are godless homosexuals but the rednecks aren't nearly as well organized. Therefore I say all that agree with Phil individually email A&E and tell them we are gonna boycott their spondors and see how fast they unsuspend Phil 
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:48 am to Houston Summit
I agree.
He didn't say "God hates figs" or anything.
He even referred to it as homosexuality as opposed to many other derogatory terms people use for the gay community.
He didn't say "God hates figs" or anything.
He even referred to it as homosexuality as opposed to many other derogatory terms people use for the gay community.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:48 am to Houston Summit
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Phil is saying that homosexuality and beastiality are both sinful acts, as supported by what's written in the Bible
"It's in the Bible, so it's not hate speech."
Is that the logic you're going with?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:49 am to Agforlife
A&E can find another staged show rather quickly.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:50 am to Houston Summit
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It's actually not. Phil is saying that homosexuality and beastiality are both sinful acts, as supported by what's written in the Bible. He is not condemning anyone. It's not our place to cast judgement on anyone. Only God can do that. But making a statement that is supported by Scripture is not hate speech, no matter how hard you try to make it appear that way.
Question for some Christians... didn't Jesus's existence invalidate all those old sins? Like ejaculating in a man's butt, or eating bacon? Or did the anti-gay thing make it in to the New Testament as well?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:51 am to TeLeFaWx
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did the anti-gay thing make it in to the New Testament as well?
Nope.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:52 am to Stonehog
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"It's in the Bible, so it's not hate speech."
you're being narrow-minded.
"someone doesn't agree with homosexuality, so it's hate speech."
is that what you're going with?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:53 am to TeLeFaWx
I believe Romans is the only book in the New Testament that reportedly mentions homosexuality, but even then there is debate on it actually condemning it.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:53 am to TeLeFaWx
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Or did the anti-gay thing make it in to the New Testament as well?
it did not.
Old Testament people are the craziest.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:54 am to Stonehog
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"It's in the Bible, so it's not hate speech."
Is that the logic you're going with?
This is what I find amazing. Nobody said that homosexuals are bad people. Nobody said that God hates figs. Phil, and Christians across the world, simply make the statement that homosexuality is a sinful act, and everyone loses their minds.
Truth is, everyone sins. If I said that adultery is wrong, is that hate speech too? Because that is also in the bible. We are still called to love these people as Christ loved us, but that doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is a sin.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:55 am to cas4t
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"someone doesn't agree with homosexuality, so it's hate speech."
He did more than disagree with it, he equated it to having sex with animals.
I realize this is in the Bible. That doesn't mean it can't qualify as hate speech, just because it's in scripture.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:55 am to parkjas2001
I was being a smartass and just pointing out that a group of people with an organization behind their cause tend to be heard even if they are a much smaller overall voice.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:55 am to cas4t
from wikipedia
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Hate speech is, outside the law, communication that vilifies a person or a group based on discrimination against that person or group.[1][2]
In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:56 am to Stonehog
he did not incite any violence against the gay community. That's not hate speech according to every definition i've been able to find.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:57 am to Stonehog
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He did more than disagree with it, he equated it to having sex with animals.
that, according to definition, does not make it hate speech.
It may be ridiculous, and I agree 100%, but it's not hate speech.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:59 am to Houston Summit
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Truth is, everyone sins
Then why do Christians like to single out gay people? He who is without sin cast the first stone, correct?
What I find amazing is that Christians are so quick to say gay people are going to Hell for being gay, even though Christ supposedly died for our sins. Phil even says that they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Why is homosexuality a worse sin than being rich?
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