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re: "Dixie" fight song and "Rebel" mascot banned tonight.

Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Southside was built in the mid 60's to be the white school, it remained white for 15 years after it was built.


Damn had no idea Fort Smith had a lot of blacks. Every time I go through there and stop, I never see any on the main roads.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:17 pm to
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never see any on the main roads.






You gotta go find MLK Blvd
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Maybe don't pick a political statement of a mascot. Then you wouldn't find yourself having to change it.

"Southside", which everybody who's been to Fort Smith knows, was considered the "whiter school" since its inception... Lets not pretend like there weren't deliberate connotations attached to the name from its adoption.

I get this mindset for certain things that at least have the apparent of being started out of spite, such as this school in particular and the old Georgia state flag.

But being as that you likely started this thread as some sort of Ole Miss bait, how to you feel about our nickname rebels in particular? We named our sports teams that much earlier on, and did so as a memorial to our students, which the entirety of enlisted in the confederate army, and suffered a 100% casualty rate.

Was that meant to be a political statement in your opinion?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:42 pm to
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But being as that you likely started this thread as some sort of Ole Miss bait




Considering who the OP is that's a great guess.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to
I gave him a very hollow benefit of the doubt.
Posted by Miz Piggy
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:49 pm to
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Damn had no idea Fort Smith had a lot of blacks.


Not really a "lot" - 9% according to the 2010 census.

When I was in school in the mid-90's, Northside was about 50% white, 30% black and 20% Asian. Southside was about 90% white and 10% all other minorities.

This has been a long time coming. There were calls back in the 80's to change the mascot. The school did ban the flag in '89 in order to try to prevent larger changes.
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:15 pm to
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Maybe don't pick a political statement of a mascot.


Maybe the mascot is not a 'political statement' until a few assholes feel offended by it?
Posted by Numberwang
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:37 pm to
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Damn had no idea Fort Smith had a lot of blacks.


9% is a lot for western Arkansas.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:16 pm to
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how to you feel about our nickname rebels in particular?


I think it is unavoidably political, and deliberately so. The nickname was changed during Jim Crow, for an whites only institution, which already went by a nickname associated with slavery. I was suprised to find out that UM has only been rebels since the 1930s and was formerly the Flood.

As for the talk about "Indians", I'd bet anything there are many more schools/teams that are "formerly Indians" of some kind than are presently called Indians.

The same is happening with rebels.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:17 pm to
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Maybe the mascot is not a 'political statement' until a few assholes feel offended by it?


LOL. No.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:05 pm to
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I think it is unavoidably political, and deliberately so. The nickname was changed during Jim Crow, for an whites only institution, which already went by a nickname associated with slavery. I was suprised to find out that UM has only been rebels since the 1930s and was formerly the Flood.



Wtf...I didn't know that. Wow. Always thought they were the rebels. Hmmmm.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 8:06 pm
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:28 pm to
We changed the name from the Flood because it offended a lot of our fans that lost their homes after the great Mississippi River flood in the late 20s.

Seriously.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:29 pm to
That actually makes sense.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:35 pm to
We just can't get out of our own way
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