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Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:45 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:45 pm to the808bass
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And yes, it's a utopian idea to say every kid can be proficient. But I think educators who are in schools where 70% of the kids aren't proficient should probably shut up about standards and hope no one notices they're doing a really shitty job with what they've got.
Eh, I disagree. When you come into a school that has the long standing culture of being a PLA school a lot of things have to change before scores can come up. And that can take years. Doesn't mean they should "probably shut up about standards".
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This is a bit fuzzy. Some of wife's school's score went down last year but they still made their yearly goal. So it's not just that every single score and subgroup has to go up every year.
Depends on your state standards.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Eh, I disagree. When you come into a school that has the long standing culture of being a PLA school a lot of things have to change before scores can come up. And that can take years. Doesn't mean they should "probably shut up about standards".
My wife's school was a step away from provisional accreditation when she took over. It took two years to drastically improve test scores. And that's with an 80% free and reduced lunch demo and 20% ELL. We are so forgiving of the lack of improvement of scores that it's almost sad.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:56 pm to the808bass
And not at all PLA's are the same. Good for your wife's school though. We've been lucky enough to have enough approvement that we've kept staff and the stability has helped after a revolving door for awhile. We dramatically improved in three but then dropped when they changed our district.
We still have 95% free/reduced, 23% ESL, and roughly 17% ECE with multiple EBD self-contained classrooms.
ETA: What's ironic is we made our marks in all categories/groups last year with the kids in our building. But we got dragged down by the state "giving us" the scores of kids who have never stepped foot in our building (i.e. Students at our ESL Newcomer Academy, kids at alternative placements like mental hospitals/alternative schools, etc). Kids that never attended all year but we got the scores because they live in the resides area.
Logically it should've been balanced out by giving us scores of kids who are attending traditional programs in our resides. But that didn't happen.
We still have 95% free/reduced, 23% ESL, and roughly 17% ECE with multiple EBD self-contained classrooms.
ETA: What's ironic is we made our marks in all categories/groups last year with the kids in our building. But we got dragged down by the state "giving us" the scores of kids who have never stepped foot in our building (i.e. Students at our ESL Newcomer Academy, kids at alternative placements like mental hospitals/alternative schools, etc). Kids that never attended all year but we got the scores because they live in the resides area.
Logically it should've been balanced out by giving us scores of kids who are attending traditional programs in our resides. But that didn't happen.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:00 pm to UMRealist
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I feel like I get what they are trying to do here. It reminds me of my first finance professor teaching is how to calculate present value or a payment by hand before just letting us plug it into our calculators.
That being said, I think I would of hated learning basic math like this.
It's kind of the same when I took Income Tax I in college for an accounting degree. OUr end of the year project was a complex tax return for an individual , all by paper. By that time there were software programs that did most of the work, but understanding how different forms flowed into a tax return was very important.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:54 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But we got dragged down by the state "giving us" the scores of kids who have never stepped foot in our building (i.e. Students at our ESL Newcomer Academy, kids at alternative placements like mental hospitals/alternative schools, etc). Kids that never attended all year but we got the scores because they live in the resides area.
That blows.
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