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re: 9/11 Was A Conspiracy!
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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One major problem is that all the information/facts aren't even on the table in these discussions.
It's not a viable theory to say "there's a bunch of stuff we don't know."
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:22 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Sure there's a viable alternative theory
It's just coincidence that most of the engineers and experts in the world including the ones in this thread are against it.
Bizarre.
But I hear an NFL coach, a few firefighters and pilots have alternative theories.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Dude, I'm just asking you to show me where I said what's in your sig quote. It shouldn't be very hard.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:24 pm to the808bass
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It's not a viable theory to say "there's a bunch of stuff we don't know."
Excuse me?
Why would you assume that was the alternative theory?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:24 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Dude, I'm just asking you to show me where I said what's in your sig quote. It shouldn't be very hard.
The evidence is so broad and expansive, it'd take me forever to post all of my sources.
I guess you'll just have to change your perception, won't you? Open your mind a bit, hmm?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
My university has engineering in the title--doesn't really matter, not relevant
Planes have hit buildings and they didn't collapse--doesn't really matter, not relevant
Pete Carroll agrees with me--doesn't really matter, not relevant
If he's wanting to really debate the topic at hand without irrelevant info being posted, why does he inject all of these useless bits of information?
Planes have hit buildings and they didn't collapse--doesn't really matter, not relevant
Pete Carroll agrees with me--doesn't really matter, not relevant
If he's wanting to really debate the topic at hand without irrelevant info being posted, why does he inject all of these useless bits of information?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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But I hear an NFL coach, a few firefighters and pilots have alternative theories.
Well, and lots of engineers, architects, pilots, and even some world leaders. As well as the majority of the world population (have no idea how they conduct such polls).
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:27 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:Here's the difference. An engineer looks at that and says wow, something is very different here, I must try to find out what. Then studies are done, evidence assembled, theories proposed and argued, more tests, more data, until a consensus is reached and it all is published for all interested parties to review.
but planes have hit buildings with no collapse.
You look at that fact and go clearly there is an international secret conspiracy with technical abilities that border on magic that is so amazingly brilliant they can hide any actual evidence of themselves no matter how widespread they would have to be to pull off any of the huge logistical things they would have to.
And anybody who can't see how obvious this is is just too naive and stupid to 'get it'.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:29 pm to UMTigerRebel
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My university has engineering in the title--doesn't really matter, not relevant
Planes have hit buildings and they didn't collapse--doesn't really matter, not relevant
Pete Carroll agrees with me--doesn't really matter, not relevant
If he's wanting to really debate the topic at hand without irrelevant info being posted, why does he inject all of these useless bits of information?
Here you go, Sleeping. Along with your quote.
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This isn't entirely relevant because there were different factors in play, but a B25 bomber hit the Empire State building and a C45 hit 40 Wall Street, neither building collapsed.
Your main premise: The Twin Towers (buildings)should have withstood the blows from the planes (planes) and not collapsed, there had to be another agent at hand.
Your quote literally reads as above. You used two examples and tried to preface them with they might not be relevant in a conversation where it is in direct support of your hypothesis.
I hope you're not a Poe, because this is unbelievably lucid.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:30 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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One major problem is that all the information/facts aren't even on the table in these discussions.
It's like trying to put together a puzzle with 1/3rd of the pieces.
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quote: It's not a viable theory to say "there's a bunch of stuff we don't know." Excuse me? Why would you assume that was the alternative theory?
And away we go again.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:30 pm to MIZ_COU
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Here's the difference. An engineer looks at that and says wow, something is very different here, I must try to find out what. Then studies are done, evidence assembled, theories proposed and argued, more tests, more data, until a consensus is reached and it all is published for all interested parties to review.
You look at that fact and go clearly there is an international secret conspiracy with technical abilities that border on magic that is so amazingly brilliant they can hide any actual evidence of themselves no matter how widespread they would have to be to pull off any of the huge logistical things they would have to.
And anybody who can't see how obvious this is is just too naive and stupid to 'get it'.
Holy smokes. Whaaat?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:30 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Why would you assume that was the alternative theory?
It's not like you're telling us what it is. I get there are a lot of details and circumstances but if you actually wanted to have this conversation you'd be able to five us an abstract. Some jumping off point that isn't a five hour documentary.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:31 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:Lot's as in numbers maaayyybeee. Lot's as in a large percentage no fuking way.
Well, and lots of engineers, architects, pilots,
quote:This just in. A majority of the world is scientifically illiterate. Are you actually going to try to use polls as scientific evidence because if so there is a job as Fox News waiting for you
As well as the majority of the world population (have no idea how they conduct such polls).
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:32 pm to the808bass
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And away we go again.
No, not here we go again.
I said there are viable alternative theories.
And then I said one problem is that not all the information is on the table in these discussions, it's hard to put a puzzle together with a third of the pieces.
How do you interpret the statement that not all the information is on the table as the alternative theory?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:32 pm to Sleeping Tiger
You never claimed any of that, right. You just implied it. In a very backhanded manner. And then when someone takes your implied argument and states it, you say "I never said that."
Except if you never said "that," you never said anything. I seriously think you have some dissociative issues.
Except if you never said "that," you never said anything. I seriously think you have some dissociative issues.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:32 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Do you need me to explain that to you? cause I will
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:33 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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How do you interpret the statement that not all the information is on the table as the alternative theory?
It's obviously not an alternative theory. That's my point. And you don't have a theory. Which is also my point.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:35 pm to Duke
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It's not like you're telling us what it is
I'm not sure what you want me to do, there are entire books on the Saudi relationship.. And that is a small aspect of this, I'm not sure how I could put it all together in a post, or even a thread, especially with the amount of stones that would get thrown in the process.
This wasn't my thread, I jumped into it, that wasn't my topic of choice, or angle of choice, and I really didn't say too much in this thread, most of my posts haven't had much to do with the content of this topic.
Maybe I'll start threads, with specific topics from that documentary and ask that anyone that wants to participate watch the segment that is being talked about.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:35 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Holy smokes. Whaaat?
Here you are, doing it again.
I just posted this on the other page. It's your entire gameplan.
"I have no idea what you're talking about."
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:37 pm to the808bass
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It's obviously not an alternative theory. That's my point. And you don't have a theory. Which is also my point.
Sure I do, but the theory is really not the most important part, at least not in the beginning.
People want to know how this happened and who did it without doing the footwork.
They want to see what the house looks like without building it, which is impossible.
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