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Tiger B.B. observations....

Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 pm
N. Florida didn’t put up much fight, as they were overmatched by Mizzou.

Puryear needs not to start come conference time. He has no game inside or out. CVL bench player too. Harris looked better tonight, and Geist did a good job too. Starting front line should be J. Porter, Tillman, and Barnett. With Robertson and Harris at guards. Geist, Nikko, should and will get good minutes, with Puryear, Phillips, and CVL down to 10 minutes or less. I think with Tillman, and Porter and Nikko we have a good rotation of bigs so nobody gets into too much foul trouble. Harris is gaining confidence, and Geist brings energy off the bench. Just my take...what’s yours?
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:27 pm to
Jontay and Puryear are playing the same minutes. There’s plenty of minutes for both to get their playing time.
Puryear is also shooting 43% from 3 on the season. He’s good when he doesn’t force his offense.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:33 pm to
I literally lold when CVL got doubled in the corner in the first half.

Absolute panic in his eyes.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:14 pm to
But who would you rather see in the game...Jontay or Puryear? It’s a no brained for me. Porter can pass, shoot, block shots, and rebound.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:20 pm to
It’s not an either or situation. With MPJ hurt there’s playing time available for both.

Jontay is a better player, but Tilmon, Jontay and Puryear all need to play 20+ minutes a game to fill out the minutes in the frontcourt. Not many bigs really play more than 25-30 minutes a game.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:42 pm to
I guess I don’t count Puryear as a big. Can’t jump at all. I prefer to have Nikko get more minutes inside. Puryear should probably back up Barnett at the 3 instead of starting him at the 4.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:01 pm to
Puryear is obviously better than Nikko, but they don’t really play the same position and won’t compete for minutes with each other.

That’s even with Nikko having the better game today.
Posted by Remote Controlled
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:05 pm to
I don’t mind Puryear at all. I wonder if some of you guys understand what he is as a player.

He’s a non-dominant PF. Not a shooter and not a dribble drive guy.

High post up worker, cutter, midranger.

Not a rim attacker, not a long range threat, and not a low post player.

He accepts his role mostly. Why can’t you guys.

Barnett is the swing forward that you need. Puryear has a place.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:09 pm to
I’m not trying to compare the 2, I’m saying Puryear should not be starting at the 4. He’s just not good on the inside. Now, he could back up Barnett at the 3. Then put Tilmon, Porter, and Nikko on a rotation inside. Nikko takes up a lot of room in there. Seems to be getting a little more confidence and aggressiveness too. Heck even Barnett could play the 4 better than Puryear. But Barnett is a much better shooter from the 3.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:22 pm to
In Mizzou’s offense there’s not a lot of difference between how the 3 and 4 are used. Playing Nikko and Tilmon together kills spacing. So they are either or players.
Starting doesn’t really matter, as Jontay and Puryear play similar amounts of minutes.
If MPJ was healthy Puryear would be playing much less, but he’s not so there are minutes available.
Barnett at the 4 could be an option if Mizzou had better guards.
Posted by Alphaman
KC, MO
Member since Nov 2013
54 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:09 pm to
I think you are wrong on both counts:

1) You start Puryear over Jontay because of his experience, particularly once you get into conf play with hostile crowds and physical play. Jontay is best suited to come off the bench once the game has settled in. Plus he brings a scoring threat off the bench which is needed for depth.

2) Puryear is not athletic enough to play the 3. He travels quite often when trying to make a move on the outside and doesn't shoot well enough to play on the perimeter. The 4 is his best position. He's a junkyard dog type of guy (rebounds, put backs, hustle plays).
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:39 pm to
He’s not a 4 either...can’t jump any higher than me! Gets stuffed around the basket more times than not.

I don’t know....Porter seems pretty cool under pressure. I’ll take him as my starter and let Puryear ride the pine till someone needs a blow.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:48 pm to
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I’ll take him as my starter and let Puryear ride the pine till someone needs a blow.


You do realize that those 2 are averaging almost the exact same amount of minutes.
Jontay has been playing with the closing lineup in close games, which there haven’t really been very many of those games. Puryear also was playing with the closing lineup.

Also in th offense Mizzou runs, the 4 is not an interior position.

Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:25 pm to
Yes, I understand that, but let’s stretch Porter out a little more, and reduce Puryear minutes.
The 4 may not be an “interior position”, but they still have to crash the boards, and Puryear is not good at that.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

stretch Porter out a little more,


Mizzou has basically played 4 legit teams. Both Jontay and Puryear have played more in those games than their season averages.

So far those 2 haven’t been competing against each other for minutes.
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:18 pm to
Ok..ok...ok....my starting 5 is Porter, Barnett, Tilmon, Harris, and Robertson. I believe those are the best 5 players we have less MPJ. Puryear can get his minutes subbing in for Porter or Barnett. Last year, when we had less talent, Puryear was our best.....this year with the talent we have, he doesn’t register in the top 5.
I understand your opinion, but this is my opinion. Well just to agree to disagree. No problem. I respect what you have to say on this.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:29 pm to
Starting doesn’t matter. Both are in the top 5 in minutes played.

In the games that have been close late in games, both have been in to close teams out.
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