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Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:57 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:57 pm to JesusQuintana
There is blame on every idiot on all sides of this issue.
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:12 pm to JesusQuintana
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we'll be completely in the clear.
Mizzou is most definitely NOT in the clear. Just because shite has happened at other schools doesn't negate the mountain of bullshite that happened at ours.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:30 pm to 50CalMG
People need to stop being melodramatic, talking about being in the clear or not being in the clear. The reality of it is that none of it amounts to anything more than you want it to be.
If you want it to be a big deal to you, it will be.
If you don't want it to be a big deal it won't be.
I can tell you that, put all the "The sky is falling" people aside on both sides, and none of this means a damn thing to the University. I can guarantee you that kids will continue to go there. We will continue to play sports. Not a damn thing is different, other than having to listen to both sides talk about how their situation is so bad.
If you want it to be a big deal to you, it will be.
If you don't want it to be a big deal it won't be.
I can tell you that, put all the "The sky is falling" people aside on both sides, and none of this means a damn thing to the University. I can guarantee you that kids will continue to go there. We will continue to play sports. Not a damn thing is different, other than having to listen to both sides talk about how their situation is so bad.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:36 pm to reedus23
I agree that personally you can determine what effect it has, but it has without a doubt done damage to the University and the FB program. There is no denying that.
As I said though, the further we distance ourselves the better. If people would stop dredging it up it would fade much quicker.
As I said though, the further we distance ourselves the better. If people would stop dredging it up it would fade much quicker.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:39 pm to JesusQuintana
Meh, they'll still play games next year and they'll still win games. That's all I give a shite about. And for every recruit we lose because of it we gain one who thought it was a cool stand. It all works itself out in the end and at the end of the day it all means nothing more than you want it to mean.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:46 pm to reedus23
Except for the drop in donations, enrollment, and the current issue with state funding. Those are all tangible.
Odom said that he had to address the bullshite strike in every home he went into. I don't think it's any coincidence we finished so poorly in recruiting.
Odom said that he had to address the bullshite strike in every home he went into. I don't think it's any coincidence we finished so poorly in recruiting.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:50 pm to JesusQuintana
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Except for the drop in donations, enrollment, and the current issue with state funding. Those are all tangible.
All that goes back to our fans and state legislature not letting it go.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:57 pm to wubilli
I agree. Maybe not all of it, but most of it.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 8:58 pm to JesusQuintana
And yet they'll still play football and the donations will climb back up and the school will survive with sufficient funding and yet Odom will continue to land recruits.
Finishing so poorly could also have something to do with a weak in state class, a coach that retired at the end of the season, a new coach who is a 1st time coach, who had no time to recruit himself and what time he did have included a dead period for a good chunk of that limited time, only to have an assistant bail last minute. Meh, I'd say he did just fine all things considered.
ETA - Oh and that record last season could have hurt too.
Finishing so poorly could also have something to do with a weak in state class, a coach that retired at the end of the season, a new coach who is a 1st time coach, who had no time to recruit himself and what time he did have included a dead period for a good chunk of that limited time, only to have an assistant bail last minute. Meh, I'd say he did just fine all things considered.
ETA - Oh and that record last season could have hurt too.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:14 pm to reedus23
Yea Mizzou wins 10+ games next year and competes for SEC East title and all those donations come back.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:37 am to wubilli
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All that goes back to our fans and state legislature not letting it go.
Why should they? The previous administration allowed a few black athletes to hold the University hostage for some PERCEIVED racism that may or may not exist. Lets remember that this started over name calling. Name calling cost the University MILLIONS of dollars...and we aren't even sure if it was students who did it.
Of course people are pissed.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:53 am to 5thTiger
The amount of hypocrisy during posturing is always fascinating.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:42 am to Tigersessed
It's easy to say it's gone away, but we just signed an awful recruiting class, enrollment is down, to say it hasn't taken a toll is a falsity.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:52 am to Mizzoufan26
Enrollment isn't down enough to be statistically significant.
The recruiting class could be as a result of a down year instate, a losing record, a coaching change. The class was mostly in place before the threatened strike.
The recruiting class could be as a result of a down year instate, a losing record, a coaching change. The class was mostly in place before the threatened strike.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:27 am to KCM0Tiger
I basically agree with all that, but sometimes when you are at the top shite stops with you whether it's your responsibility or not. I honestly felt from the beginning he kind of pussed out.
Some members of the board have stated they would like him to reapply so they could hire him back. That would be a pretty funny. And save a lot of time and money
Some members of the board have stated they would like him to reapply so they could hire him back. That would be a pretty funny. And save a lot of time and money
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:32 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:55 am to the808bass
quote:Apparently you were born in the1800's
We weren't all born yesterday
quote:You'd be amazed at the number of things that are solved by simply meeting especially between parties that are not talking. You'd be amazed at the number of things that are not.
No campus protest is solved through "simply meeting."
quote:I'm only aware of two demands. The first was for a meeting, when he wouldn't the second was for him to resign.
You could've met every single demand they presented and they would've still axed him to resign
quote:haha. I guess Wolfe just 'wershed' his hands of the whole thing. You reveal an awful lot about your approach to the world with just that one word. Must suck to be trapped in your head. I heard that when Jonathan Butler's father axed Union Pacific for seven figures in annual compensation they said mohkay
axed
quote:Yes for exercising their constitutionally protected right to peacefully protest they are terrorists. That's why they are all awaiting federal trial. You don't even realize what completely over the top nonsensical hyperbole that is. Or you don't know what a terrorist is. I don't like that Alabama kicked our arse in the SECCG fuking petty terrorists.
They're petty terrorists.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 11:52 am to MIZ_COU
The point is, it never would have got to the protesting stage had Wolfe simply acknowledged them when they first approached them.
They raised concerns with him before the HC parade incident. Not only did he essentially ignore them, he in essence provoked them with his definition of systemic oppression.
He fricked this entire thing up.
They raised concerns with him before the HC parade incident. Not only did he essentially ignore them, he in essence provoked them with his definition of systemic oppression.
He fricked this entire thing up.
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