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re: MUBobby post on Tigerboard

Posted on 11/20/12 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 7:36 pm to
Another snippet:

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When you see the money they are willing to invest in a HC and staff you may change your mind.



The Brinks truck is here.
Posted by SoCalMIZ
Jumbotown, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2012
2875 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 7:45 pm to
BEEEEP. BEEEEP. BEEEEP.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 8:47 pm to
Gotta tell you, after reading the mubobby thread, if true, makes me think we got our answer to the question we were talking about the other day about whether or not we're willing to bend rules.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:06 pm to
The snippet that got me that told me it's serious is mubobby already had the answer about the buyout. To me, that tells me someone has looked at it and explored it.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:37 pm to
This is another source on PowerMizzou. Goes by the name of citizenpaper so maybe other PMers can attest to his credibility. I havent seen his posts before, but I saw others were putting stock into what he was saying.


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I posted this today at 12:50 p.m. on this board under the "2013 recruits" thread, a few hours before mubobby hit the Tigerboard airwaves with his post that has set off rockets on this board. It seems mubobby and I are drawing water from the same well, as most of our information matches. Here is my aforementioned post: Instead of offering my own WWCPD commentary, I'll speculate on what I think will occur. First, I think Alden has made it very clear to HCGP, since the Vandy loss and Sheldon's outburst on live radio to the Mizzou fan base, that things aren't going the way he envisioned. After the loss to Bama and win over Kentucky, Pinkel was given an outline of expectations for the final four games of the season. Alden's expectation was a 7-5 finish. As I've said in a previous post, this was told to me by a very reliable source. If Pinkel closed the regular season by winning 3 of 4, Alden wouldn't touch his program ... i.e. force changes. That didn't happen. Alden will now move in. I do not think HCGP will be fired or forced out. Not at the present time. If we lose 56-7 at A&M, my opinion will change. Remember, Alden had a front-row seat for the Larry Smith debacle. This program is what he's got EVERYTHING hinged on. We went to the SEC because of football. The biggest capital program for the athletic department in school history is the upcoming stadium expansion, which turns Faurot into one of the five finest college-football venues in America. That being said, I'll guess that HCGP will have to switch out both coordinators. I don't think that necessarily means that Steckel and Yost are fired; instead, they may be demoted and retained. I'll guess that HCGP will be given the opportunity to select his new coordinators, but Alden will have the final say, because he's the one paying the bill for them. We'll likely have to double or even triple the salaries now being paid to our current coordinators. To save money, Alden may urge Pinkel to look to the high-school ranks and find a Chad Morris-type of offensive guru. The point is, I think the two Daves have respectively called their final plays for this football team come this Saturday evening. It won't end there. Pinkel will be told to step up recruiting in a big-time way. To that end, I think additional coaches on this staff could be sent packing, one way or the other. If nothing else, this season exposed this team's true lack of depth. We have had a lot of injuries. But I can tell you that the belief within certain circles within the athletic department is that the rash of offensive-line injuries is related to the type of athlete we're recruiting ... meaning that some think we're trying to bulk up kids who just don't have the frame to sustain it in this league. There's also a belief that Pinkel doesn't oversee the recruiting process nearly enough, turning the reins over to his assistants far, far too much on this front. In recent years, this staff's number of recruiting "misses" is way, way too high. To that end, I envision a staff minus at least three of its current members. It could be as high as five. To me, only Andy Hill is safe. People may forget this, but Alden is the one who pushed Pinkel to retain Andy from Larry Smith's staff. Some folks may conveniently find new jobs. Indy, I hope this fixes the problem. I really, really hope so, because head-coaching changes are never easy. I do think HCGP is a very good CEO of this program ... however, he's only as good as the talent around him, in all facets. For next season (2013), I think that those speculative changes would make a difference. And I envision the end result being very close to the scenario that I just described.
Posted by SoCalMIZ
Jumbotown, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2012
2875 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:45 pm to
Lots of smoke today.

I still think he's gone.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:50 pm to
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Lots of smoke today.

I still think he's gone.


I don't know if he's gone. That's probably up to him. Will he agree to changes or not. What I do think is the shite has gotten real serious real fast.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

I don't know if he's gone. That's probably up to him. Will he agree to changes or not. What I do think is the shite has gotten real serious real fast.

Exactly.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:12 pm to
Christensen back in the booth next year?

Life isn't going so well for him out in Wyoming.

Lets get the band back together.
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4684 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:36 pm to
Why Christensen? His team has fallen well below expectations. There's a reason he's probably getting shite canned.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:47 pm to
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Why Christensen? His team has fallen well below expectations. There's a reason he's probably getting shite canned.


I don't know, I was just saying..

And just because he's failing as a HC at a difficult school to win doesn't mean he's not a good OC.

Kind of like how Yost isn't a good OC, but a solid recruiter and Qb coach.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 10:48 pm to
Yeah, I think I'd rather move forward as well.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:14 pm to
I remember lots of people calling for DC's head while he was here. And after his blow-up with the Air Force coach, I'm not sure Alden would take him back. I think Alden will have final say on any new assistants hired, and my guess is he'll look forward.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

I remember lots of people calling for DC's head while he was here. And after his blow-up with the Air Force coach, I'm not sure Alden would take him back. I think Alden will have final say on any new assistants hired, and my guess is he'll look forward.



Whoa what?

When was DC ever unpopular at Mizzou? I remember people being upset that we lost him.

The comment about bringing the band back together was only half serious.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5793 posts
Posted on 11/20/12 at 11:30 pm to
I have no inside source, but can believe CGP must be under some pressure from those who have the power.

This may not be a good time to be looking for a new head coach, but Pinkle needs to make changes in his staff. If he refuses to do this, then regardless of timing, he needs to go.

I would be in camp that gives him another season to make adjustments. One thing I don't want is too lose any more commits. I do think CGP is experiencing personal issues that have brought some degree of negativity to the program.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:32 am to
And now this officially hits ridiculous mode.

KMOV in St. Louis just ran with this article. Notice who their source is:

quote:

COLUMBIA, Mo (Missouri Football App) – Rumors are swirling online about the future of head football coach Gary Pinkel. The questions started when Mizzou message board member mubobby posted a comment saying assistant coaches are already slated to be axed, and Pinkel’s protest of that, along with the team’s embarrassing first season in the SEC has put the twelfth- year coach on the hot seat. The post is as follows: GP was given a very specific outline of what was expected of this football program, and then an ultimatum after the Vandy game for how the season needed to finish. Obviously, failed miserably on both accounts. There will indeed be staff changes, and GP is pushing back against them. This is the reason his job is not as safe as most think. He thinks he can do whatever he wants in regards to this program, but I’m told by the best source there is that his equity here is nowhere near as high as he believes it is. Many of the money people are tiring of him, his public embarrassments of the school and obviously it all came to a head with this disaster of a season. I was told before the season that this was the most important season in the history of Mizzou athletics. They simply could not afford a failure and if it happened, it would not be tolerated. A handful of assistants are already gone, others are still under review. It’s my opinion GPs job is not in danger....yet. He is most definitely living on the edge though. If we get embarrassed at A&M that may change While this certainly isn’t official, the poster has a pretty reliable track record- including correctly calling nearly every detail of the DGB signing. His sources are considered reliable by both members of the online community and those with internal knowledge of the athletic department. Mubobby does have a black spot on his record by saying Mizzou to the Big 10 was a done deal. However, even members of the athletic department were hearing that in the weeks leading up to the announcement, and since then, his information on injuries and coaching decisions seems to have been spot on. While there is no available information on the predicted staff changes, it would seem logical that some demotions and firings are on the horizon. Pinkel does have several marks against him in the last year, but I would not have put his job in jeopardy so soon. However, when someone with an established record says they are hearing from ‘the best source there is’ that he could be on the block, I’d say a lot more is on the line against A&M than just a bowl bid.


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This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 1:02 am
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:35 am to
Boom. Looks like I was just in time, as they took the story down. I promise you that shite really did just happen though folks.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127687 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:37 am to
Lolz.

&

Journalism is dead.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:44 am to


I mean I really cant stop laughing at this.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/21/12 at 8:15 am to
That is absolutely pitiful. At least get creative with your journalism and say it's coming from an anonymous source or something. I'm waiting for the article where they cite Killz as the source!!!
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