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Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:10 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:10 pm to JesusQuintana
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Ok, we sit in 5th, but have all but 1 wrestler still alive. What kind of chance do we have to win?
Not good, but Ohio State has some pretty poor draws in the Quarters apparently and just read they may not advance.
At the end of the day though, I still think Ohio State wants this much more than us and definitely showed it today. Money would have to be on them.
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:14 pm to Mizzoufan26
@todpalmer: Smith on #Mizzou's day: “I don’t like where we are right now. I’d rather be in first, but we have an opportunity to do great things still.”
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:43 pm to JesusQuintana
1. tOSU (23 points): 8 alive(5 up/3 down); 2 out.
2. Iowa (21 points): 8 alive(5 up/3 down); 2 out.
3. OSU (19.5 points); 8 alive(5 up/3 down); 1 out; 1 DNQ.
4. PSU (18.5 points); 7 alive(5 up/2 down); 3 DNQ
5. MU (18 points); 9 alive(3 up/6 down); 1 out.
5. NU (18 points); 9 alive(3up/6 down); 1 DNQ.
7. CU (17.5 points): 8 alive(3 up/5 down); 1 out; 1 DNQ.
8. IL (16.5 points): 10 alive(2 up/8 down).
9. UM (15 points): 7 alive(3 up/4down); 3 out.
2. Iowa (21 points): 8 alive(5 up/3 down); 2 out.
3. OSU (19.5 points); 8 alive(5 up/3 down); 1 out; 1 DNQ.
4. PSU (18.5 points); 7 alive(5 up/2 down); 3 DNQ
5. MU (18 points); 9 alive(3 up/6 down); 1 out.
5. NU (18 points); 9 alive(3up/6 down); 1 DNQ.
7. CU (17.5 points): 8 alive(3 up/5 down); 1 out; 1 DNQ.
8. IL (16.5 points): 10 alive(2 up/8 down).
9. UM (15 points): 7 alive(3 up/4down); 3 out.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 10:54 pm to reedus23
Smith pretty much said it all. I suppose we can hope that tOSU exhausted themselves today and come back to earth tomorrow. They were getting bonus points like mad.
Illinois actually has the most wrestlers alive still, but we're right behind them and in better shape.
Things seem to have gotten easier for Waters with 2 time defending national champion Delgado from Illinois losing. Has another unseeded wrestler in the next round. Also, the #2 seed lost.
The 4 seed in the upper bracket lost, making Houdashelt's route to the Finals a little bit easier.
197 hasn't seen much in upsets. The good news with that is that Cox is a beast, though I have seen him dominate yet.
I think there is no doubt those 3 have got to make the finals and it may be that those 3 have to win the finals at this point. I don't anticipate any more bonus points from them.
The good news is, if we're as good as we thought we were, bonus points should be easier to pick up in the loser's bracket, at least earlier on. If the 3 up top have to pull their weight by just winning, the guys down below have to step up like Eblen and Lavalle did and wrestle not just to win but to get bonus points. Mayes and Eblen are the most likely to get that done. I think Miklus might be able to as well.
Illinois actually has the most wrestlers alive still, but we're right behind them and in better shape.
Things seem to have gotten easier for Waters with 2 time defending national champion Delgado from Illinois losing. Has another unseeded wrestler in the next round. Also, the #2 seed lost.
The 4 seed in the upper bracket lost, making Houdashelt's route to the Finals a little bit easier.
197 hasn't seen much in upsets. The good news with that is that Cox is a beast, though I have seen him dominate yet.
I think there is no doubt those 3 have got to make the finals and it may be that those 3 have to win the finals at this point. I don't anticipate any more bonus points from them.
The good news is, if we're as good as we thought we were, bonus points should be easier to pick up in the loser's bracket, at least earlier on. If the 3 up top have to pull their weight by just winning, the guys down below have to step up like Eblen and Lavalle did and wrestle not just to win but to get bonus points. Mayes and Eblen are the most likely to get that done. I think Miklus might be able to as well.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:07 am to reedus23
Y'all freaking out over the first day. No worries as of now. Today is where the team race really shapes up. Placement points are the real decider. Need as many All Americans as we can get. Still have 9 alive. If the 3 on the Championship side win one on the Championship or wrestleback, they are AA. Guys on the back need to win 3 to get to the podium.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:13 am to reedus23
125-Waters- Sitting well. Quarters opponent looked awesome yesterday. Beat him 4-2 earlier this year.
133-Synon-Out.
141-Mayes- Really screwed up in the 2nd round yesterday, but hopefully that translates to pissed off, bonus point scoring on the backside.
149-Houdashelt- Chugging along. #4 seed losing gives him a clearer path to the finals.
157-Lavalle-First round loss wasn't a shock, as his opponent was a returning AA who wasn't able to be seeded. Good to see a bonus point rebound. Keep it going.
165-England-Already surpassed expectations. Any win from here on out is icing on the icing of the cake.
174-Eblen-really shot himself in the foot by losing in the first round. Had a nice win last night. Hope he has his head on strait, because we need him.
184-Miklus- Shocked alot of people by getting a pin in the first round, but just wasn't aggresive enough in the 2nd. Hope he can pick up a few bonus point on the back.
197-J'Den-Just keep winning. Need him in the finals. Screw bonus points, Just Win. (Watch the 4/5 matchup in his bracket, will be huge match)
285-Mellon-Solid win in the 1st. Beat by an animal in the 2nd. Should grab some points on the backside.
133-Synon-Out.
141-Mayes- Really screwed up in the 2nd round yesterday, but hopefully that translates to pissed off, bonus point scoring on the backside.
149-Houdashelt- Chugging along. #4 seed losing gives him a clearer path to the finals.
157-Lavalle-First round loss wasn't a shock, as his opponent was a returning AA who wasn't able to be seeded. Good to see a bonus point rebound. Keep it going.
165-England-Already surpassed expectations. Any win from here on out is icing on the icing of the cake.
174-Eblen-really shot himself in the foot by losing in the first round. Had a nice win last night. Hope he has his head on strait, because we need him.
184-Miklus- Shocked alot of people by getting a pin in the first round, but just wasn't aggresive enough in the 2nd. Hope he can pick up a few bonus point on the back.
197-J'Den-Just keep winning. Need him in the finals. Screw bonus points, Just Win. (Watch the 4/5 matchup in his bracket, will be huge match)
285-Mellon-Solid win in the 1st. Beat by an animal in the 2nd. Should grab some points on the backside.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:21 am to 5thTiger
Waters just won his quarterfinal match 4-1...moving on up to the semis.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:48 am to NEMizzou
Ohio State is pouring it on...up 16.5 over Missouri, who is in fourth (2 behind 3rd and 10 behind Iowa in 2nd).
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:56 am to NEMizzou
I don't know how wresting tournaments work.
Do we still have a shot at winning a national championship or not?
Do we still have a shot at winning a national championship or not?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:09 am to mizzoukills
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I don't know how wresting tournaments work.
Do we still have a shot at winning a national championship or not?
Ohio St 41.5
Iowa 36.5
Mizzou 33.5
Had no Idea Ohio State was that damn good.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:23 am to bayou2003
Maybe they are, maybe they arent. It was clear like I said last night though that they were gunning for the team title. Winning wasn't enough, aggressive from start to finish and doing everything to get bonus points.
There were two totally different demeanor comparing them and us
There were two totally different demeanor comparing them and us
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:27 am to bayou2003
Ohio State really stepped up this year. Won the Big 10 (after 54 year drought)...lost to Mizzou by one point, lost to Iowa by 4 points.
And they're really hitting their peak now.
And they're really hitting their peak now.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:50 am to mizzoukills
Listen Hither....We are fine. Points get inflated today. No need to freak right now. Ohio State is losing people on the wrestleback side.
We have done excellent so far this round. Have some head to heads with them in the Semis that will be literally 18 point swings. Do not panic.
We got this.
We have done excellent so far this round. Have some head to heads with them in the Semis that will be literally 18 point swings. Do not panic.
We got this.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:00 pm to 5thTiger
I really hope you are right!
Go Tigers!!
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:40 pm to Ridgewalker
Cox wins his quarter. Lackluster is the only word to describe it. 3-2, Cox spent the 3 periods basically, avoiding losing rather than going at his opponent. I hope he can be more aggressive here on out.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 12:40 pm to Ridgewalker
Cox is through, all Mizzou's #1 seeds make it to the semis...
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:00 pm to NEMizzou
Missouri is now in second place behind Ohio St. Got a lot of points to make up, though.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 1:20 pm to Literalist
Nm I was clearly wrong
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 2:19 pm to Mizzoufan26
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2015 NCAA Division I Championships Results for Missouri
125 - Alan Waters (33-0) placed 6th and scored 9.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Alan Waters (Missouri) 33-0 won by decision over Brandon Jeske (Old Dominion) 14-13 (Dec 6-1)
Champ. Round 2 - Alan Waters (Missouri) 33-0 won by decision over Conor Youtsey (Michigan) 25-13 (Dec 4-0)
Quarterfinal - Alan Waters (Missouri) 33-0 won by decision over David Terao (American) 39-6 (Dec 4-1)
133 - Zach Synon (29-13) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Danny Sabatello (Purdue) 28-10 won in sudden victory - 1 over Zach Synon (Missouri) 29-13 (SV-1 4-2)
Cons. Round 1 - Eric Montoya (Nebraska) 21-14 won by decision over Zach Synon (Missouri) 29-13 (Dec 4-0)
141 - Lavion Mayes (36-3) place is unknown and scored 3.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Lavion Mayes (Missouri) 36-3 won by major decision over Joseph Spisak (Virginia) 18-10 (MD 14-4)
Champ. Round 2 - Dean Heil (Oklahoma St.) 24-9 won in sudden victory - 1 over Lavion Mayes (Missouri) 36-3 (SV-1 3-1)
Cons. Round 2 - Lavion Mayes (Missouri) 36-3 won by decision over Dante Rodriguez (Iowa St.) 19-8 (Dec 6-1)
Cons. Round 3 - Lavion Mayes (Missouri) 36-3 won by decision over Josh Dziewa (Iowa) 29-9 (Dec 9-3)
149 - Drake Houdashelt (35-1) placed 6th and scored 11.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Drake Houdashelt (Missouri) 35-1 won by decision over Christian Barber (North Carolina) 13-11 (Dec 4-2)
Champ. Round 2 - Drake Houdashelt (Missouri) 35-1 won by major decision over Brandon Nelson (Purdue) 23-14 (MD 8-0)
Quarterfinal - Drake Houdashelt (Missouri) 35-1 won by major decision over Alexander Richardson (Old Dominion) 27-8 (MD 10-0)
157 - Joseph LaVallee (24-13) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Nick Brascetta (Virginia Tech) 12-3 won by decision over Joseph LaVallee (Missouri) 24-13 (Dec 5-2)
Cons. Round 1 - Joseph LaVallee (Missouri) 24-13 won by major decision over Steven Hernandez (Boise State) 18-9 (MD 9-0)
Cons. Round 2 - Joseph LaVallee (Missouri) 24-13 won by decision over Justin DeAngelis (Oklahoma) 21-7 (Dec 8-6)
Cons. Round 3 - Anthony Collica (Oklahoma St.) 28-10 won by decision over Joseph LaVallee (Missouri) 24-13 (Dec 5-2)
165 - Mike England (31-15) place is unknown and scored 4.00 team points.
Prelim - Mike England (Missouri) 31-15 won by decision over Tyrel White (Columbia) 24-16 (Dec 3-2)
Champ. Round 1 - Mike England (Missouri) 31-15 won by decision over Tristan Warner (Old Dominion) 29-5 (Dec 6-2)
Champ. Round 2 - Taylor Walsh (Indiana) 37-5 won by decision over Mike England (Missouri) 31-15 (Dec 5-2)
Cons. Round 2 - Mike England (Missouri) 31-15 won by major decision over Troy Reaghard (Pittsburgh) 13-12 (MD 12-4)
Cons. Round 3 - Mike England (Missouri) 31-15 won by decision over Clark Glass (Oklahoma) 20-15 (Dec 4-1)
174 - John Eblen (28-7) place is unknown and scored 3.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Joe Latham (Oregon St.) 24-17 won by decision over John Eblen (Missouri) 28-7 (Dec 6-4)
Cons. Round 1 - John Eblen (Missouri) 28-7 won by major decision over Tanner Weatherman (Iowa St.) 23-10 (MD 8-0)
Cons. Round 2 - John Eblen (Missouri) 28-7 won by major decision over Andy McCulley (Wyoming) 30-10 (MD 8-0)
Cons. Round 3 - Zach Brunson (Illinois) 29-9 won by disqualification over John Eblen (Missouri) 28-7 (DQ)
184 - Willie Miklus (32-8) place is unknown and scored 6.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Willie Miklus (Missouri) 32-8 won by fall over Lorenzo Thomas (Penn) 28-7 (Fall 2:16)
Champ. Round 2 - Nathaniel Brown (Lehigh) 28-5 won by decision over Willie Miklus (Missouri) 32-8 (Dec 5-4)
Cons. Round 2 - Willie Miklus (Missouri) 32-8 won by decision over Fred Garcia (Lock Haven) 34-9 (Dec 9-3)
Cons. Round 3 - Willie Miklus (Missouri) 32-8 won by fall over Richard Robertson (Wisconsin) 28-10 (Fall 3:31)
197 - J`Den Cox (36-0) placed 6th and scored 9.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - J`Den Cox (Missouri) 36-0 won by decision over Scottie Boykin (Chattanooga) 27-13 (Dec 8-1)
Champ. Round 2 - J`Den Cox (Missouri) 36-0 won by decision over Jeffrey Koepke (Illinois) 21-17 (Dec 6-2)
Quarterfinal - J`Den Cox (Missouri) 36-0 won by decision over Max Huntley (Michigan) 23-9 (Dec 3-2)
285 - Devin Mellon (33-10) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Devin Mellon (Missouri) 33-10 won by decision over Nathan Butler (Stanford) 29-9 (Dec 5-4)
Champ. Round 2 - Adam Coon (Michigan) 31-4 won by decision over Devin Mellon (Missouri) 33-10 (Dec 5-2)
Cons. Round 2 - Devin Mellon (Missouri) 33-10 won in tie breaker - 1 over Riley Shaw (Cleveland St.) 32-6 (TB-1 3-2)
Cons. Round 3 - Devin Mellon (Missouri) 33-10 won by decision over Ryan Solomon (Pittsburgh) 17-13 (Dec 5-3)
7 Wrestlers left after the morning session, down 16 points in second place. 3 left on the Championship side of the bracket. Contrast that with the leader, Ohio State, who has 5 left in the Championship side of the bracket but nobody left in the Consolation Bracket.
Waters and Cox face Ohio State wrestlers in the semis, so that might help figure some things out.
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 3/20/15 at 2:30 pm to NEMizzou
What the hell happened to eblen? They took away all the points he had earned and we are now in 3rd place behind iowa as well because of it
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