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Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:34 am to
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:34 am to
No no no dude. Don't you understand? The guys on the team aren't risking all that hard work because in there hearts they think there is that big of an issue. It's because they are weak and spoiled and entitled. All the qualities that get you on a D1 football team. If they new what it was like to be white guy on a message board pissed about his football team they would know what true sacrifice is about.

To bad they have the right to assemble and protest.

fricking constitution. frick it to death
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120554 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:36 am to
Triggered.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:43 am to
quote:

Triggered.


Nah, he just sees through the hypocritical bullshite you guys all say you stand for.

Freedom of Speech, as long as it doesn't piss me off.

Freedom to Assemble, as long as it doesn't piss me off.

These guys can do whatever the frick they want. If they're wrong, they'll learn a valuable lesson. If they're right, they affect change.

It's not up to you or me to tell them if they are right or wrong. They'll find out for themselves.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18798 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:49 am to
quote:

white guy


You racist piece of shite, you assume I am white because I do not follow your narrative.

Racist

Racist
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120554 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 12:52 am to
You typed a lot of words.
And yet you can't match up any of the utter shite you typed with anything I've said.
None of it.
So you're using stereotypes of what you think I believe to then address me.
Which would be surprising if it wasn't utterly predictable.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:06 am to
Well, I know you and I know where you stand.

I know you are moderate enough in your own mind.

Enough to know that what I typed shouldn't have elicited a response.

Dare I say, triggered?

I wasn't focusing on you in particular, because believe it or not, I respect your views. I don't agree with them, but you seem like a well educated fellow, and that counts for something in my book when it comes to shite like this.

I was just commenting on the nature of those that tend to side on your point of view.

The constitution is as holy as the bible, but when it comes to things they disagree with, they become very authoritarian.

Which seems like fascism to me, but what do I know. I'm just a dumb libtard.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120554 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:12 am to
I completely support their right to protest.
I completely support their right to freedom of speech. I also have the freedom of speech to call them pussies. That's how freedom of speech works.

And I'm not moderate. I'm to the right of Attila the Hun. But I believe in freedom for all. Even when it's freedom to be a dumbass. I do not support freedom from consequences. Not for Oline coaches. Not for policemen. Not for idiots who yell the "n" word at other students. And not for football players.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23180 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:21 am to
quote:

Freedom of Speech, as long as it doesn't piss me off.

Freedom to Assemble, as long as it doesn't piss me off.

You're absolutely right - they can say whatever they want to say, and assemble as they so choose, or not. But it works both ways - the right to not be offended is nowhere in the constitution. When I hear something that offends, me I exercise my right to turn the channel, change the station, exit the conversation or in some other way stop following along. No one has to believe just like me, and vice versa.

quote:

These guys can do whatever the frick they want. If they're wrong, they'll learn a valuable lesson. If they're right, they affect change.

Absolutely. They can choose to do whatever they want. However, if they do not fulfill their obligation to play football for the University, for which they have a very nice scholarship, the University is not obligated to continue providing those benefits. That may be the most valuable lesson they could learn. Who blinks first?

Unless something more breaks than we have heard so far, which honestly seems like 3 pretty minor incidents plus some BLM activism on campus.... There are going to be some VERY pissed off fans and boosters. If this goes on more than a few days, there could be fireworks around TSF and scholarship benefits for these players.

This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 1:25 am
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:26 am to
You are 100% right.

I think we are on the same page here, give or take a few things.

You came in this discussion late, and I'm piling on for the sake of piling on.

I apologize.

There are those who think that these guys have no right to this, and I completely disagree.

I appreciate the fact that you agree that they are free to do as they please.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120554 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:36 am to
No worries.

I think they will learn some immensely valuable lessons. And the first one will be that money runs everything. Not white/black. Not wrong/right. Not good/evil. Money. And they'll blink. And the administration will help them so it doesn't look like they're blinking because the administration has a vested interest in not being portrayed as racist and because they understand these political games and how to give and take with protest groups. This ain't the first protest rodeo the university has been to.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23180 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:46 am to
quote:

I think they will learn some immensely valuable lessons. And the first one will be that money runs everything. Not white/black. Not wrong/right. Not good/evil. Money. And they'll blink.

Ding, ding, ding...

quote:

This ain't the first protest rodeo the university has been to.

Nope. BUT, to my knowledge, this is the first win of this nature for the BLM movement (and you know they are running this, and that they're very well funded.) They have to be salivating that they got a football team, high profile, to walk out and strike over relatively minor stuff. Big win for them. The social media and overall publicity will be crazy. So, in a sense, it's uncharted territory for the University too.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:46 am to
It's a difficult situation.

With hardly any moving parts.

The administration will have to address this, and that's what they want.

Means to an end.

Pussies, wusses, whatever, they've created a conduit for whatever it is they think needs to be changed.

That's cool in my book. I'm not sure firing the president will solve anything, and honestly this thing probably will bring out the real nuts on campus, but whatever.

They opened the whole can of worms, and maybe now we can just get it all out in the open and deal with it.

I'd prefer we all just deal with "it", what ever "it" might be.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
20984 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:09 am to
quote:

All of our black players are not going to participate in any football activities until...well, I don't know when.


I think this might actually represent an upgrade at wide receiver.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
20984 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:25 am to

Video of protesters confronting Tim Wolfe at UMKC.

LINK
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23180 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:01 am to
Well, it might have been tone deaf, but could have been worse. It was also an question he probably couldn't have answered properly, or well enough, for the audience. They were looking for the faux paus, and he gave it to them.

That faux paus may have signed his pink slip though.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by MIZZOU_JP
Member since Apr 2015
1813 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:59 am to
Sweet! Now I don't have to protest this garbage team by not watching them. Go Rams!
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:04 am to
I'll ask again? What are they risking? They are 4-5. The season is and has been tanked. So it's not that. Public ridicule? I've seen nothing but hero treatment for these guys. Do you really think that any white authority figure would denounce a black racial movement in this day and age? I mean ever? frick no. They'd get the racist kiss of death. The only politically acceptable reaction to something like this is for a white person to show the appropriate level of white guilt. That's it.

So again, what exactly are they risking? Disenfranchised black youth are the most popular, protected and sympathized with group in our country at this point.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18798 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:11 am to
quote:

So again, what exactly are they risking? Disenfranchised black youth are the most popular, protected and sympathized with group in our country at this point.


Uh-oh, you've done it...

Facts are no longer facts when it comes to this topic and you will now be verbally assaulted by the, because, well I don't really know why these kids are doing it, but if they are it must be a good reason that they are risking all of this. (no true risk though)
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:15 am to
Once again, I'm in Sicily, so I don't have all the current facts.

But we went from wanting the Chancellor fired, to wanting the President fired? Is the President one of the Chancellor's guys?

This whole strike is over the President telling some black people that they are starting a fire where there is none?

I agree with him if that's what he meant in that video.

Most of these African Americans are receiving free or heavily subsidized educations because they are...........black. Not because they are smarter than everyone else on campus, but because they are black. Racism is good, when they benefit.

Why are the football players involved in this? Are they all part of this black organization that had the N word said to them?

It's unbelievable what I'm hearing right now, they are making Mizzou out to be the HQ of the KKK because of two isolated incidents?

I'll say this, racism exists everywhere in the world. I've seen it here in Sicily, I've seen it all over the States, I've seen it all over the world. Northern Italians don't like Sicilians, Bosnians hate Serbians, Russians hate everyone who is not Russian, Light skinned blacks hate dark skinned blacks, on and on it goes.

Social media is destroying America because most people are too lazy or too stupid to wait for the facts or find them themselves. Instant outrage and overreaction does nothing but destroy the credibility of anyone involved.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120554 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:20 am to
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