re: Great stuff from Dennis Dodd on the Press Box

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The problem with hiring an up & comer is we won't be able to keep him IF we're successful, as in SEC Champ successful. Our pockets aren't as deep.

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Well that's always going to be a problem. Are you suggesting we hire a coach no one else would want so he doesn't leave?

If we hire a great use and comer and he leaves, then we are in pretty good shape.

I'm also not too worried about money being a reason a coach we would want to keep leaving.

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Unlike most of us fervant fans of MU and its sports programs JQ intrinsically believes that inherently there are immovable barriers to true sustained success much less excellence. "We can't compare, we will never be able to compete with,,,for.., we don't have enough local talent blah blah"
What he does is subliminal sometimes overt lowering of the bar of success and simultaneously building in excuses. Thus attempting to mute the fervant fans who believe that there is no reason or excuse that THE State University should be accepting mediocrity or worse. Those who expect and or demadnd better simply do not get it.

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You got all of that out of me saying we should be aiming HIGHER than Miles???

That's some impressive mental gymnastics you just performed there.

Let me try again...WE CAN DO BETTER THAN LES MILES.

One more time...WE CAN DO BETTER THAN LES MILES.

Read, comprehend, stay on topic.

Well, you aren't getting a guy who is successful at a P5 program.

You are either getting an old retread (Miles) or you are taking a chance on someone who is somewhat unproven. I'll take the chance every time. Give me the upside.

One possible exception would be Strong. Maybe, and I'd definitely be on board with him.

Wow. Good job. Step 1 in you no longer being a shite poster is to actually respond to the topic of the thread. That's good. Step 2 will be to stop posting the same tired shite over and over and over, but we can work on that later.

Now, allow me to retort. Not hiring a successful P5 coach DOES NOT equal accepting mediocrity. There are countless examples of coordinators or coaches from smaller schools being hired that have worked out very well. In fact, all of those coaches that are now successful at P5 schools started out at lower levels at one point and time.

Another thing that would be helpful for you is trying to dose even the slightest bit of realism into your posts. Thing long and hard about this question, and please answer. Why would a successful coach, already at a P5 school, leave that situation for Mizzou? Why? One reason will do. Now, we could of hired Dykes from Cal when we hired Odom but he was about to be fired. Maybe you have a guy unhappy at his current situation and just looking for a change, but that possibility is so slim for a coach that is winning it's barely worth discussing.

Now, just because you hire a guy that isn't currently enjoying success at a P5 program (which make no mistake is what WILL happen), absolutely does not mean you are "settling for mediocrity". You go out and find the guy with the absolute highest ceiling that will take the job, and that is who you hire. There are no sure things. It may work out, it may not. If it doesn't, we are doing this same thing a few years from now. So on and so forth. This is the nature of the beast.

Keep working on things. You can get better. Do better. There is no rule that says you HAVE to stay the worst poster on the board. Things can change. COU posts here so it's not like it's a terribly high hill to climb to get out of the cellar. You got this!

And FOR frickS SAKE...stop up voting yourself!

Wilson EAD

For the record, I meant a quality coordinator with successful years and a top notch football mind at a P5 level: that's the only first year HC candidate Id even consider.

If it's below P5, it sure as frick better be a hot shot on the fast lane who's dominating his current level of play and has enough recruiting smarts to make it in the SEC.

Here's my choice for Mizzou's head coach position when it opens up because this guy can recruit nationally, players respect him, he can coach and Saban believes in him and trust him. Plus he would be happy to coach in the SEC and some of the coaches on Bama's staff would follow him over here.
He was my choice when Odom was hired.

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Heck...I would take the water boy off the Bama staff.

My guess is the 64 year old wants to retire at bama. If we’re going to hire and old coach, i hope that we choose one with HC experience.
Like JQ, i want a midlevel winning HC or unlike JQ, an older coach with experience winning and recruiting like Les Miles or Strong to shore up the program and right the ship.