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could Missouri get a quality coach like Belimia

Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:31 pm
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:31 pm
to leave a good program and come to Mizzou? I know money changes things but let's face it GP has a few years left. By choice or not. We will be in this situation in a few years.

Do we have enough money and allure to get a quality coach to leave a good program to coach us to the promise land?
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:42 pm to
Like I was saying before, in the Big XII no way. But now that we are in the SEC, I think Alden was serious about keeping up his end of "Stepping Up". We are about to have a stadium bigger than Clemson and Notre Dame. I have heard the boosters are more than ready for the challenges presented with our move. I think this is about to mark a new era for us as far as enthusiasm. So I will go with Yes. We will end up getting a quality coach.

If you need more proof, look at Alden coming right out of the gates and going after Matt Painter. I think Alden is ready to go. He did such a sell job, that he actually initially got Painter to accept the job. While later he stayed at Purdue, it wasnt because of Alden. I am more than confident we will get a good coach. All Alden needs to do is say, "6 Million people with no real in-state competition, 81,000 person stadium. Missouri in the Southeastern Conference, come to Columbia and you can have it all here."
Posted by SoCalMIZ
Jumbotown, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2012
2875 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:56 pm to
Is he a quality college coach? He's lost every meaningful game he's coached.

Personally, while I think it's a good hire for the tards, I don't think of him as "championship" type of coach any more than I do GP.

Maybe I'm way of base, but, that's my opinion, and I'm stickin to it.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:00 pm to
He didn't go to Arkansas for their historic program. They don't have a historic program...yet.

He went for the money.

If Mizzou were to do what Arky did and nationally dangle $27 million at a superstar coach, you better believe that we'd land someone great.

That was a stroke of brilliance, I hate to admit.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30280 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

superstar coach


quote:

Bielema


Dont agree here.

Arkansas significantly overpaid for what they got in return.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:09 pm to
The man has won 3 straight Big Ten Championships. You see him on the same level as Pinkel?
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:11 pm to
They did overpay, but lets not act like this was some terrible hire. 3 straight Big Ten championships. We are paying 2.8 to a guy that has been blown out in the Conf. Championship game twice.

I wouldnt have broke 4 Million for Biel but its their money.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:23 pm to
What does Pinkel have to do with my opinion?

The Hogs overpaid and he is not a "superstar" coach.

Thats all I said.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:27 pm to
I get that. But all I am saying is I dont think you can argue with 3-Straight CC in one of the 4 major conferences. The only thing Biel cant really do is recruit. But his assistants will handle that.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

The only thing Biel cant really do is recruit. But his assistants will handle that.


They didnt at Wisconsin. Mizzou out recruited his Wisconsin teams over the last 5 years. Just saying. Recruiting to win in the SEC is a whole other level as we are learning the hard way.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:36 pm to
Very true, but he was still getting into Texas (5) and Florida (18) and pulling players up to Wisco. Now that he is in Arkysaw, expect that to continue dramtically. Also, Wisco was infamous for being really cheap on assistants. Like really cheap. One of the things that got him to move was the boosters promise that he would have very large funding to get assistants. So get ready to see expensive coaches coming to Ark. Look I dont like it either, but they did make a good hire.
Posted by SoCalMIZ
Jumbotown, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2012
2875 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:37 pm to
I kinda forgot about those...

Still, he's never struck me as being on planet sabanmiles.

Lets put it differently, I have family and friends from Wisky. None of them are upset over him leaving like some would have been if GP left for Michigan a few years ago.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:41 pm to
He isnt on Saban/Miles level, but it would be naive to say that Arkansas didnt "marry up" in this arrangement. This was a great move for them. But dont worry. When the time comes, I think we will be making a great move of our own.


I hate it that I am hyping Arky like this
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:42 pm to
One other thing that has them feeling like he is replaceable is the thought that they can just go out and get another good coach. We didnt feel like that to the same degree. It would have been a little more of a mystery for us. Sounds like the fans want their old OC back from Pitt.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30280 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:48 pm to
Its not about not liking Arkansas. Honestly I haven't bought into the Hog hate. Its fun on the message board but I just dont have any real ill will towards them so that isnt a motivation for my opinion.

I dont think its a bad hire either. They could only marry up from last season. I dont think he will have the success that Petrino did.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22159 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 2:34 pm to
I thought the arky outlets were saying he signed for $3.2million, not 4. Seems like well within MU's budget.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30280 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:50 pm to
Thats what i heard as well but there are some clauses and bonuses that "supposedly" push it in the $3.8 million area.

Dont take that as fact as that is just rumblings around the interwebs.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 4:36 pm to
I think you're giving them too much credit for this hire..

Someone made a good post about him last night..

His conference records really aren't that impressive, and he's only back in the Rose Bowl bc of Ohio St and Penn St.

It's not like they landed an elite coach, they got a good one, but far from an elite guy.

This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5036 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

His conference records really aren't that impressive, and he's only back in the Rose Bowl bc of Ohio St and Penn St.


That is correct, but the fact of the matter is they did win it 3 straight times. Ohio and Penn State out was the situation once, and in that championship game they clearly proved that they were better than the frontrunner Nebraska. You judge them for what they have done in their own situations, not because of what other teams can and can not do. The record will show 3 straight. Plus Ohio State and Penn State was only a year, so you are also throwing out the previous two years for an uncommon situation.

Now he isnt top notch, but to just dismiss 3 straight championships (however they came into them) is shortsighted.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 5:22 pm to
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That is correct, but the fact of the matter is they did win it 3 straight times. Ohio and Penn State out was the situation once, and in that championship game they clearly proved that they were better than the frontrunner Nebraska. You judge them for what they have done in their own situations, not because of what other teams can and can not do. The record will show 3 straight. Plus Ohio State and Penn State was only a year, so you are also throwing out the previous two years for an uncommon situation.

Now he isnt top notch, but to just dismiss 3 straight championships (however they came into them) is shortsighted.



I don't know.. I get the concept of not worrying about what other teams can't do... but we'd just be neglecting truth to not inject the fact he wouldn't be going to the Rose this year if Ohio St was eligible.

Monte Ball went there because of the Wisconsin RB reputation, and Wilson kind of snuck in there at QB last year... without those guys he isn't a winner last year either. I don't think he's a proven recruiter.. it's not a bad hire, I just don't think it's a great one.
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