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re: BREAKING Blake Harris commits to Mizzou
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:23 pm to muinsandiegp
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:23 pm to muinsandiegp
I would bet that Phillips starts over all of these freshman. His assist rate was amongst the better PGs nationally. That was on a team that struggled to hit shots.
I wouldn't be suprised if he had a year next season similar to Pressey's sophomore year.
I wouldn't be suprised if he had a year next season similar to Pressey's sophomore year.
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:25 pm to navynuke
bad juju man. you should know that
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:26 pm to TigerTalker16
He may go to MSU, but he should definitely still be a priority recruit for us until he goes elsewhere
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:29 pm to wubilli
4.4 assists per game on a team that was 341st in shooting %.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:31 pm to wubilli
all the freshmen gonna freshman. They need a year of weights and practice before they are gonna be real forces, especially the bigs.They should be fun though
Posted on 4/9/17 at 8:59 pm to MIZ_COU
They're gonna freshman in a way we're not used to freshmen freshmanning. Tilmon will need some work but will walk in and be as good/better than any of the guys with some experience. Harris will likely be as good or better talentwise than Phillips (and I'm a Phillips fan...big time). Porter will not play like the freshmen we're used to at all. Neither would Knox.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:07 pm to MIZ_COU
You ever heard the term "one and done", MIZ_COU?
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:15 pm to MIZ_COU
Tilmon is ready right now to defend and rebound. He needs some fine tuning with his back to the basket but that's fine.
Porter should be an all conference type player at the very least. Knox is not far behind him.
Roberts is pretty polished scorer. Can shoot and get to the basket. Nice midrange game.
Harris needs some work on his shot, but he's a super athletic lead guard that can get to the basket and is a great passer.
All these guys should be high level contributors from jump IMO.
Also, I think people kind of forget that Phillips, Puryear and Barnett are all still here and will be in the rotation. We have some experienced talented players to add in the mix.
We should be pretty good.
Porter should be an all conference type player at the very least. Knox is not far behind him.
Roberts is pretty polished scorer. Can shoot and get to the basket. Nice midrange game.
Harris needs some work on his shot, but he's a super athletic lead guard that can get to the basket and is a great passer.
All these guys should be high level contributors from jump IMO.
Also, I think people kind of forget that Phillips, Puryear and Barnett are all still here and will be in the rotation. We have some experienced talented players to add in the mix.
We should be pretty good.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:16 pm to TigerTalker16
well if most of them are one and done this will not have nearly the lasting effect we were hoping ( although I really only think Porter is going to be able to do that).
Hell I'm hoping there's a chance MPj stays for 2.
but no I haven't heard of one and done.
pls esplain
Hell I'm hoping there's a chance MPj stays for 2.
but no I haven't heard of one and done.
pls esplain
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:19 pm to JesusQuintana
They gonna be good. But they are still going to get pushed around under the basket especially at tournament time, they are still going to have to adjust to the college game and Martin, and they are still going to have to adjust to being on campus and going to class.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:22 pm to reedus23
Phillips recruiting profile was very similar to Harris. Phillips ranked 163 in his class a pass first PG, Harris is 124 also a pass first PG. both had reputations of playing a little out of control at times.
Harris might end up being better, but I would bet that next year Phillips is better.
Phillips has shown a better shot than many believed he had, so could play along side if both Harris & Roberts.
With MPJ, Barnett and maybe Tilmon, Knox, & Smith the PGs won't need to be scorers next season.
Harris might end up being better, but I would bet that next year Phillips is better.
Phillips has shown a better shot than many believed he had, so could play along side if both Harris & Roberts.
With MPJ, Barnett and maybe Tilmon, Knox, & Smith the PGs won't need to be scorers next season.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:26 pm to JesusQuintana
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Tilmon is ready right now to defend and rebound. He needs some fine tuning with his back to the basket but that's fine.
Back to the basket play is antiquated basketball. Athletes like Tilmon and Smith that can move and be versatile are more important in the game now.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:32 pm to MIZ_COU
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well if most of them are one and done this will not have nearly the lasting effect we were hoping ( although I really only think Porter is going to be able to do that).
Porter and Knox are the only 1 and done type players if all goes right. Porter for sure but he's at least talked of a year 2. Knox could use more time by all accounts but with a good year could go after one. The rest are here longer but just at such a different level than we're used to.
eta - Hopefully/presumably, you also get year 2 from Jontay and his recruiting regardless of what MPJ/Knox do. Should give Martin a solid foundation to play with for years to come quite honestly.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:37 pm to wubilli
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Back to the basket play is antiquated basketball.
UNC and Gonzaga say hello. Yes, bigs tend to be more athletic and like to play outside, but I'd say that having guys that can play with their back to the basket is hardly antiquated. I just don't think there are many guys out there that develop those skills so why not stretch the defense and play more athletically at that point.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:57 pm to reedus23
Karnoski is really the only back the basket player on those teams. And he had a terrible championship game. The UNC bigs as well as the other Gonzaga bigs all got their points in other way mostly.
None of the top NBA or FIBA teams play through a classic post. The Warriors get a ton of points in the paint by spreading teams out and moving the ball.
None of the top NBA or FIBA teams play through a classic post. The Warriors get a ton of points in the paint by spreading teams out and moving the ball.
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:38 pm to wubilli
The question isn't if they can't spread it outside, but can they play inside when need be. Some guys just have no interior skills at all.
Yes, Meeks can play with his back to the basket, even if he's shooting a 6 foot fade after having had his back to the basket.
I would agree that Karnoski is the about the only player where that constitutes nearly the entirety of his game.
Yes, Meeks can play with his back to the basket, even if he's shooting a 6 foot fade after having had his back to the basket.
I would agree that Karnoski is the about the only player where that constitutes nearly the entirety of his game.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:21 am to MIZ_COU
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all the freshmen gonna freshman. They need a year of weights and practice before they are gonna be real forces, especially the bigs.They should be fun though
Totally. I think by his junior year, Michael Porter Jr. will be a FORCE!!
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:36 am to reedus23
There are a lot of ways to score on the interior without a back to the basket type of player.
If your an analytics person, scoring out of the post is 1 of the less efficient ways.
In Haith's first season, Ratliff was awesome. He was also rarely used a classic post.
Tilmon probably doesn't score much next year anyways. He can protect the rim defensively, allowing the guards to be more aggressive. That should really be his primary role.
If your an analytics person, scoring out of the post is 1 of the less efficient ways.
In Haith's first season, Ratliff was awesome. He was also rarely used a classic post.
Tilmon probably doesn't score much next year anyways. He can protect the rim defensively, allowing the guards to be more aggressive. That should really be his primary role.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:45 am to wubilli
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In Haith's first season, Ratliff was awesome. He was also rarely used a classic post.
He was good that year, but he was seriously exposed in the most important game.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:48 am to wubilli
Honestly, after watching some video of him I think he's a better post scorer than the scouting reports would suggest.
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