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re: Better QB, Hurts or Bryant?
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:02 pm to TrueLefty
Posted on 1/14/19 at 11:02 pm to TrueLefty
He is going to be a middle of the road QB in the SEC. Cant make a ton of throws and doesn’t have the “it” factor.
With that being said, he is far better than the options we had without him. I’m hoping our offense succeeds, but Dooley definitely has his work cut out for him.
The jury is out.
With that being said, he is far better than the options we had without him. I’m hoping our offense succeeds, but Dooley definitely has his work cut out for him.
The jury is out.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:06 am to Kamikaze25
He averaged 247 yds of total offense per game vs FBS opponents in 2017. That would have been second to only Drew Lock in the SEC. I certainly don't think he is going to stand in the pocket and throw outside the hashes 3 times per possession but I think he can do several other things that will make him successful in the SEC.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:12 am to navynuke
I definitely don't see them as the same player.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:52 am to blueprint_one
What are the major differences in what each brings to an offense?
Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:51 am to blueprint_one
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definitely don't see them as the same player.
Good catch. Bryant is black. That was one of the clues for me.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:03 am to the808bass
LOL. Pretty sure he was talking about Hurts and Bryant.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:12 am to navynuke
LINK
All signs point to Hurts being the better qb but Hurts played on a better overall team last year. Hurts is also a player with more experience in high leverage situations. That link shows that Hurts not only is a more efficient passer but a better runner as well.
Bryant is still somewhat an unknown to me, get him with lesser athletes and we will really see how good he is.
All signs point to Hurts being the better qb but Hurts played on a better overall team last year. Hurts is also a player with more experience in high leverage situations. That link shows that Hurts not only is a more efficient passer but a better runner as well.
Bryant is still somewhat an unknown to me, get him with lesser athletes and we will really see how good he is.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:06 am to navynuke
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He averaged 247 yds of total offense per game
Im sure it helped having three NFL receivers too
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:28 am to mizslu314
McLoud and Cane were both six round picks and Renfrow is essentially TJ Moe. Let's not church things up.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:30 am to navynuke
and thats not better than what Lock had this year?
edit: nvm, misread two different convos
edit: nvm, misread two different convos
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:52 pm to mizslu314
If we are talking 2017 skill groups, I'd take Hall, Moore, and Albert over McCloud, Cane and Renfro.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:08 pm to navynuke
nope was talking about his 2017 group vs locks 2018 group
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:57 pm to mizslu314
With what? You think the group Bryant was throwing to was better than Hall, Albert O, Johnson and Knox/Scott?
I’ll bet the NFL draft is going to strongly disagree. Hall and O will go higher than anyone from Clemson’s 2017 group.
I’ll bet the NFL draft is going to strongly disagree. Hall and O will go higher than anyone from Clemson’s 2017 group.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:54 pm to JesusQuintana
Yes. And its not close. At this point in time, the receivers he had in 2017, as juniors and seniors are better than JJ, Knox, and scott. Now, if youre argument is who will have a better career, I'll take ours. Thats not what this is about.
Also. Hall missed too much time, especially when we needed him, and Albert O of all the names mentioned is the best. So no argument there. Id take Hunter and Albert as the top 2.
Also. Hall missed too much time, especially when we needed him, and Albert O of all the names mentioned is the best. So no argument there. Id take Hunter and Albert as the top 2.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:39 pm to mizslu314
If we are counting injuries then I see your point. Purely from a talent standpoint though I like our guys better.
Hall and Albert O are the two most talented guys in the group
Hall and Albert O are the two most talented guys in the group
Posted on 1/15/19 at 8:42 pm to JesusQuintana
I’m going off of what lock had at his Disposal in 2018
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:00 pm to blueprint_one
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All signs point to Hurts being the better qb
In 11 games vs P5 opponents in 2017 Hurts completed 121 of 212 (57%) for 1528 yds (138 yds per game) and 11 TDs. He had 131 carries for 568 yds and 5 rushing TDs.
In 12 games vs P5 opponents, Bryant completed 229 of 354 (65%) for 2336 yds (194 yds per game) with 9 TDs and had 183 carries for 583 yds and 10 rushing TDs.
Hurts accounted for 44% of his teams total offense and 33% of the TDs vs P5 opponents.
Bryant accounted for 62% of his teams total offense and 41% of the TD production vs P5 opponents.
Here are their charts for the 2017 season:
Hurts:LINK
Bryant:LINK
If you want to peruse stats, go here LINK /
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:57 am to navynuke
It's an interesting stat, but Clemsons Power 5 games we're mostly against ACC opponents.
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