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re: 2015 Football Recruiting Thread *Offer/Commit List and Videos on 1st Page*

Posted on 10/3/14 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by Mizzou23
Missouri
Member since Mar 2012
2013 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

The Mizzou grad coach we had at North Gwinnett left for another job and all momentum was lost after that and the Imatorbhebhe decommitment.



This is disappointing to hear. Any idea where he went? Is it another spot that will have consistent solid recruits?
Posted by mosoblkcougar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:02 pm to
Glynn academy I believe. I did some research on them and they've never produced a D1 football player, so that sucks.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I know Mizzou probably developes better than anyone else, so I should shut up, but I was expecting more excitement after last year.


I certainly expected more after winning the east. I think losing Ofodile and Hentges is still tainting my thoughts. Had we landed those 2 in state kids, I would be clamoring about this class.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:07 pm to
Sucks to hear about our connection at North Gwinnet. I presume that will dry up now. Any idea where the coach went? Is he still in the southeast somewhere?

ETA - Nevermind. You answered it.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:47 pm to
Updated list of outstanding offers per all 3 services if the kid isn't already committed. As always, sometimes the kid isn't being recruited at the position listed. A 1/2* means he was a 3 on some and a 4 on others.

QB
Todd Mays(JUCO) 3* MISSISSIPPI

RB
Jacques Patrick 4 1/2* FLORIDA
Tyreik Gray 4* TEXAS
Kirk Merritt 4* LOUISIANA
Marquise Doherty 3 1/2* MISSOURI
Javarius Davis 3* FLORIDA
Evyn Cooper 3* GEORGIA

WR
Christian Kirk 4 1/2* ARIZONA
Devante Peete 4* FLORIDA
Ryan Newsome 4* TEXAS
Ryan Davis 3 1/2* FLORIDA
Rickey Preston 3* LOUISIANA
Johnathan Johnson 3* TENNESSEE
Jalen Julius 3* FLORIDA
Damian King 3* FLORIDA
Darrell Clark 2 1/2* LOUISIANA

TE

OL
Kendrick Norton 3 1/2* FLORIDA
Kieffer Longson 3 1/2* CALIFORNIA
Michael Howard 3* FLORIDA
Oshea Dugas N/R LOUISIANA
Khalil Hunter(JUCO) 3* ARIZONA
Martinas Rankin(JUCO) 3* MISSISSIPPI
Zach Bateman(JUCO) 3* CALIFORNIA
Tyler Howell(JUCO) 3* KANSAS
Malik Cuellar(JUCO) 3* CALIFORNIA

DE
Keisean Lucier-South 5* CALIFORNIA
Cece Jefferson 5* FLORIDA
Byron Cowart 5* FLORIDA
Terry Beckner 4 1/2* ILLINOIS
D'Andre Walker 4* GEORGIA
Kyle Phillips 4* TENNESSEE
Darian Roseboro 4* NORTH CAROLINA
Russell Ude 3 1/2* GEORGIA
Anree Saint-Amour 3* GEORGIA
Tyrone Riley 3* GEORGIA

DT
Tim Settle 4* VIRGINIA
Fletcher Adams 4* MISSISSIPPI
Darrion Daniels 4* TEXAS
Raequan Williams 3 1/2* ILLINOIS

LB
Rickey DeBerry 4 1/2* VIRGINIA
Jeffrey Holland 4* FLORIDA
Asmar Bilal 4* INDIANA
Quarte Sapp 4* GEORGIA
Cameron Townsend 3 1/2* TEXAS
Joshua Thomas 3* GEORGIA
De'Amontae Jackson 3* FLORIDA
Darrisu Smith 3* ALABAMA
Daniel Fennell 3* GEORGIA
Tevis Bartlett 3* WYOMING
Joseph Prevost 2 1/2* LOUISIANA

DB
Kendall Sheffield 4 1/2* TEXAS
Kris Boyd 4* TEXAS
Ben Edwards 3 1/2* FLORIDA
Hunter Dale 3* LOUISIANA
Dee Smith 3* ALABAMA
Derrick Baity 3* FLORIDA
Keith Washington 3* ALABAMA
Adonis Williamson 2 1/2* INDIANA
Elias Cane 2* TENNESSEE

ATH
Deandre McNeal 3* TEXAS
Isaac James 2 1/2* INDIANA
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6604 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:28 pm to
Thanks for the list
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6604 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:34 pm to
I guess if we got Beckner, Williams the DE from St. Louis (Ladue) who is committed to Wisconsin and a few 3 star LB, I would be good.
Posted by Mizzou23
Missouri
Member since Mar 2012
2013 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 11:40 am to
Pinkel Copter sighting last night

He flew to watch Beckner, Jeff Thomas, and Nate Strong play last night.


3* WR Johnathon Johnson plans to be in COMO next weekend. He is a 5'8 175lb guy. Listed as a 4.4 40.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:21 pm to

at the rate we're "unrecruiting" and can't even get a 2 star to commit on the spot,

pretty sure we're doin it wrong.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

pretty sure we're doin it wrong.

How much do we miss Yost for recruiting?
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6604 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 1:09 pm to
I know GP isn't the most dynamic person, but WTF? Are all the coaches just that uninspiring?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

How much do we miss Yost for recruiting?


Yea he was instrumental in getting us a year of DGB..

Yost is a sign of the problem though..

The Pinkel System:

Loyality >>>>> poor to avg performance


Pinkel is preventing himself from reaching the next level.. but

"we do what we do"
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 3:50 pm to
In his last 3 games, the Thomas kid has gone:

9 for 206 with TD's of 25, 27 and 80
8 for 144 with 2 TD's
7 for 147 with 1 TD

Doing that with what I suspect is not a D1 level QB. Frick the kids from Ofodile's school. Build that pipeline and relationships with East St. Louis.

LINK
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

pretty sure we're doin it wrong.


I'm frustrated too and seems things aren't taking off like one would think after winning the east, but:

Lock is not doing it wrong.
Strong is not doing it wrong.
Abbington is not doing it wrong.
Harris is not doing it wrong.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

How much do we miss Yost for recruiting?


Seeing more Louisiana and Alabama kids offered than in years before. Henson at work?????
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:41 pm to

Yea just looked at the Tenn class.

They have 3 times the number of commits we have with just their 4 stars alone, didn't even count their one 5 star.

Tenn has done next to nothing the last half decade, sure we have good kids in this class, but it's obviously not big enough. We have quality but not quantity, we need some talent at WR and all over the defense.

At this stage, I'm convinced winning the East again this year would make almost no difference in recruiting, might allow us to hang on to what we have though.
Posted by mosoblkcougar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 1:14 pm to
I think part of our problem lies in not bringing kids in on officials during the season. So they don't get to see the gameday atmosphere or excitement around campus. We bring them in after the season in December when the kids are gone and it's gray and crappy outside. Why do we feel this is better than visiting during the season? I can't imagine southern kids are impressed by cold Missouri winter days. Look at Kentucky, they landed 3 4* kids after their big win last night, and Ole Miss brought in a ton for their game against Bama.
Posted by mosoblkcougar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2013
1248 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:25 pm to
Malik Cuellar visiting for the UGA game.
Posted by Mizzou23
Missouri
Member since Mar 2012
2013 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 12:16 pm to
For everyone who think we can not win because of poor recruiting I want to point to the Miami Hurricanes, Michigan Wolverines, Florida Gators, USC Trojans, Texas Longhorns, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, USC Gamecocks, Tennessee, Washington, California, Texas Tech, Virginia, and Utah. These are all teams who rated higher than us in recruiting in 2012 (would be juniors and redshirt sophomores this season; DGB, Evan Boehm, Russel Hansborough, and MM were our gets in that class) and yet we are still a better team than them this year. It is not just about getting the highest rated player. It is about getting guys that fit your system. Guys who didn't peak in high school. By rivals recruiting we had one 5* (who is no longer on our team) and one 4* in Boehm. Texas had two 5* players and 15 4* players. Look where they are.

2011 Recruiting Class we had one 4* and that was Sheldon Richardson transferring from JUCO. We had the 43 ranked class (this group of Seniors and Redshirt Juniors) and I count about 26 teams who Mizzou is better than this year.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6604 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:02 pm to
While I totally agree that star rankings are way overblown. Sometimes the rankings do reflect useful measurable, like speed. So better recruiting helps a program fill in their glaring needs faster. For example we need a speed threat at WR. Some of the higher ranked WR have good measurables in speed and quickness.

Using the star system to pinpoint recruits who help with a certain need I think is helpful, but building a program based on pleasing the masses with Rivals rankings I agree is foolish.
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