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re: with a depleted team, we have a 3 hour practice day before

Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:50 am to
Posted by darkhorse
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:50 am to
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If these people are giving to a coach and not a school, Let them go. Plain and simple.



They are giving to MSU. They decided to earmark their money to other sports rather than cut off MSU. I have no problem with them doing that. At least they did not do what alot more have which is to not give at all.
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:50 am to
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ESPN announcers, MSU announcers both talked about it. The players confirmed it.


Then you should have no problem providing a link for us then, huh?
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:54 am to
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Tds & Beer



That's plenty of reason. People here attack coaches for less. Example play calling on the offense.

I don't want to see a coach who is over the top and put at risk more athletes.
Posted by darkhorse
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:57 am to
I did!! Even another posted on here took the time to confirm that.

Start at the 11 minute mark on the replay and you will hear ESPN talking about it.

Then watch the players in the post game interviews.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:01 pm to
He's not over the top. He's over the top to you because you think these players should be pampered and spoiled. Ray can not coach as effective as he would like because he doesn't have the bench. How is that such a hard concept to understand?

If a coach has 12 players, he can sub in and out effectively. If a player screws up, the coach subs in someone else. He does this to teach the player what he did wrong and how to fix it. Whereas with 7-8 you can't just sub in and out. There aren't enough bodies for that. He has to hope his players learn from their own mistakes.

Since you wanna be an a-hole and claim you know shite about fatigue. Here's one for you, basketball is my field of choice so I suggest you let me do the talking about basketball. See I can do that too, except what I'm saying is true.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:03 pm to
Yeah he fact checked your arse. But in the same breath isn't on your side. So don't even try and act like he agrees with you.

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Although fatigue may be increased, I wouldn't say it's unreasonable to practice the day before a game. I'm the tourney you have to play up to 4 games in a weekend.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:07 pm to
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I did!! Even another posted on here took the time to confirm that.

Start at the 11 minute mark on the replay and you will hear ESPN talking about it.

Then watch the players in the post game interviews.


Well it's been five pages and you still haven't answered our question about what they did at practice. You still haven't answered our question about how you know the practice is why they are fatigued. Are you going to let your kids play basketball one day? Will you tell the coach, "hey coach, I can't allow my kids to go to basketball camp this year. I heard a rumor that you have to play like 6-7 games a day at camp and their legs could get fatigued. One of them will shirley tear an ACL."

There are basketball teams in every state today that are having three hour practices today before their game tomorrow. You need to



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Posted by 17theBears
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:27 pm to
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He's not over the top. He's over the top to you because you think these players should be pampered and spoiled.


Don't put words in my mouth. I have never stated players should be pampered nor spoiled.

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Ray can not coach as effective as he would like because he doesn't have the bench. How is that such a hard concept to understand?


Look ChargerDog, I am going to respond to this and you last post. Then I'm done with the thread. I have proven what I stated was true. I was asked for links, and I provided what was required.

I understand it very well. Just because you, a coach in training wheels, are studying to be a coach does not mean that you know my background, nor my profession. You have no clue as to what I actually do know. To end this, let me be clear to you. I understand depth. I understand rotation. I understand the need and the functions of having a bench. I understand we are thin. That's from a basketball point of view.

It's hard on a coach to not have enough players. As the year goes on, it becomes even harder. Are we on the same page?

So we agree he can not coach as effective without it.


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If a coach has 12 players, he can sub in and out effectively. If a player screws up, the coach subs in someone else. He does this to teach the player what he did wrong and how to fix it. Whereas with 7-8 you can't just sub in and out. There aren't enough bodies for that. He has to hope his players learn from their own mistakes.



This is not new to me regardless of what you think. I agree with it.


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Since you wanna be an a-hole and claim you know shite about fatigue. Here's one for you, basketball is my field of choice so I suggest you let me do the talking about basketball. See I can do that too, except what I'm saying is true.


I see. Well, coach in training wheels, let me help you with your lack of understanding. It does not mean one thing that you are studying to be a basketball coach. Being a coach does not qualify you in that. Can you put a knee back together? Let's even go a little less tech on you. What can a diabetic take that will help them keep fat off thus expanding their years on earth? I will throw a hint on that one. It's an amino acid.

So please do not try and tell me that a coach in training wheels is more qualified to explain the human body and how it functions. You see, I don't need to understand a pick and roll (even though I do) to understand the human body.






Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Are you going to let your kids play basketball one day? Will you tell the coach, "hey coach, I can't allow my kids to go to basketball camp this year. I heard a rumor that you have to play like 6-7 games a day at camp and their legs could get fatigued. One of them will shirley tear an ACL."


Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:32 pm to
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You still haven't answered our question about how you know the practice is why they are fatigued.


I never stated that it was the reason. At all.

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Are you going to let your kids play basketball one day?


YEP! Football, Baseball...etc..

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Will you tell the coach, "hey coach, I can't allow my kids to go to basketball camp this year. I heard a rumor that you have to play like 6-7 games a day at camp and their legs could get fatigued. One of them will shirley tear an ACL."


This literally had me laughing! You do not understand, and I am ok with that.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:43 pm to
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You still haven't answered our question about how you know the practice is why they are fatigued.


I never stated that it was the reason. At all.
















Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4441 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:45 pm to
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I see. Well, coach in training wheels, let me help you with your lack of understanding. It does not mean one thing that you are studying to be a basketball coach. Being a coach does not qualify you in that. Can you put a knee back together? Let's even go a little less tech on you. What can a diabetic take that will help them keep fat off thus expanding their years on earth? I will throw a hint on that one. It's an amino acid.

So please do not try and tell me that a coach in training wheels is more qualified to explain the human body and how it functions. You see, I don't need to understand a pick and roll (even though I do) to understand the human body.




Nor does the knowledge of what amino acid does make you anymore a medical professional than me. That's simple science that anyone learns at the high school and college level.

I may can't put a knee back together but I can tell you several components inside the knee.

I'll take it a step further. Explain to me how a motion offense works and can be the most effective offense if run correctly?
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:48 pm to
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darkhorse


What's the key to beating a zone? Why didn't you ever let Stansbury know?
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:50 pm to
All you got to do is show me where I stated that. I didn't. What I stated was why would a coach take a team that is fatigued and practice them for 3 ours a day before they play a game.

It's nowhere near what I stated.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:53 pm to
Where did I say that you stated that?
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:55 pm to
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Nor does the knowledge of what amino acid does make you anymore a medical professional than me. That's simple science that anyone learns at the high school and college level.


LMAO!

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I may can't put a knee back together but I can tell you several components inside the knee.


I'm sure that will be helpful at some point in time.

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I'll take it a step further. Explain to me how a motion offense works and can be the most effective offense if run correctly?


Has not one thing to do with the subject. Not one!
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:59 pm to
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I am going to respond to this and you last post. Then I'm done with the thread.


Deeeeeerrrrrrrrppppp
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11983 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:01 pm to
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You still haven't answered our question about how you know the practice is why they are fatigued.




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I never stated that it was the reason. At all.



That is exactly what you said. several times.

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We have a game. We have how many players having to play a whole game, and yet we have a 3 hour practice the day before....


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If you are short on man power and have a game the next day, why would you practice them for 3 hours


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There was no need in practicing them for 3 hours the day before a game. No wonder they are not hitting shots.


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This has nothing to do with Stans. This has to do with stupid coaching... Per Ware, Per Steele. They are FATIGUED!!!!!


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Lol.... Yeah... Pretty sure they talk about practice. Oh I see. So the games caused the fatigue, yet we are still running practices the day before a game. And you call me stupid!! Hahaha. Yeah... Practise has nothing to do with it
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4441 posts
Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:03 pm to
We are discussing basketball. So please explain to me how the motion offense has nothing to do with basketball? I believe Henry Iba created it for the sole purpose of basketball.
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