re: A point about Mullen

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Sallach definitely needs to go. They need to go out and spend some money and get a good recruiter. Sallach was a last minute garbage replacement for Brewster.

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Can't argue with that. We need a recruiter in the worst kind of way.

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I just can't understand this line of thought. We have lost to Auburn on the road only by them throwing a jump ball to end the game, and two games where we were 14+ point under dogs.
Did we under-perform against BG? Yes, but that is a typical letdown game and we still won. Did we under-perform against UK? Ehhh maybe, but they also played South Carolina close.

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It could be just me. I felt OK St should have been won. That was coaching. Passing game working, and all of the sudden you decide to run the ball 12 out of the next 15 plays.

All of these games this year have been a matter of poor coaching on the offensive side of the ball.

I see only 1 loss on our schedule to this point, and I think it would have been close. LSU.

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And we have the best offense in the history of MSU....

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And it's not enough to score points in the 2nd half??? Then it's not good enough.....

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I felt OK St should have been won

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Yes. Auburn too.

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Passing game working, and all of the sudden you decide to run the ball 12 out of the next 15 plays.

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Did the exact opposite 2nd half of the BG game.. Run game was gaping them, then Prescott tries to pass EVERY PLAY of a possession.

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I see only 1 loss on our schedule to this point, and I think it would have been close. LSU

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Agreed. This game went just as it has the last few years.

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All of these games this year have been a matter of poor coaching on the offensive side of the ball.

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Also agree.. Here we are heading into our 8th game and the only answer we get is yet another CL article with Mullen taking responsibility of key play calls.. I think we all understand how that works by year damn 5, but they act like it's only 3rd and 4th downs where they may make questionable calls.. What about the momentum killing package changes? That's what kills us. Inconsistency.

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He has had a couple of nice wins, but I think (I am among them) that he has done everything he can here. We are in a better situation now so that's great. I would just like to move on.

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This is where you can get in trouble with this thinking. Stability at the HC can be a good thing and the grass isn't always greener unless we know for a fact Hud is the guy and I'll get to that.

Let's compare what Spurrier has done. I do this b/c USC was about the level of State in football.
Spurrier:
7-5
8-5
6-6
7-6

year 5 7-6
year 6 he won 9

Mullen:
5-7
9-4
7-6
8-5

year 5 we're 4-3
year 6 we should win 9

And Spurrier has done it when Tenn is way down, UF up & down, & UGA being UGA, and nto to mention Vandy and Kent. Sure he's had some good wins but he's also has a few bad losses too. Mullen had to play when the West has been the top div. in college football the last 4 years and check his record against east teams. Also, remember when after Spurrier's 3rd 6-6 regular season, people were saying the exact same thing we're saying about Dan. I'll leave it up to other to tell me who's has better recruiting rankings. State or USC.

This is my opinion only though and just throwing it out there for comparisons. I'm not sure it's Dan as much as how stale and regressed the offense became after a certain passing coordinator left. Watching the Kentucky game it's the exact replica of UF when he was OC. The only difference is UF could could out talent their opponents like we did against UK.

The only concern I see with Hud is that he's great when the talent level seems equal, not so much the other way around and that's exactly what State goes up against week after week in the SEC. Also, i haven't looked but curious to what the record of the opponents he's beat vs the losses at Ulala.

I would guess there's a difference in trusting a coach who had won a national championship as HC in Florida to a man who's in his first head coaching job, and USC's rise recently has been decorated with high recruits such as Alshon Jeffrey, Marcus Lattimore, Clowney, etc. High instate kids that we are constantly whiffing on. Spurrier also has to compete with a much more powerful and storied instate opponent than we do(which is no offense to OM, but they aren't Clemson).

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The only concern I see with Hud is that he's great when the talent level seems equal, not so much the other way around and that's exactly what State goes up against week after week in the SEC. Also, i haven't looked but curious to what the record of the opponents he's beat vs the losses at Ulala.

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As for this, Hud's losses at Ulala

2011:

@Oklahoma State(went 11-2)
@Western Kentucky(went 7-5, 4 losses OOC)
@Arkansas State(went 10-3, lost by 9)
@Arizona(went 4-8, lost by 8)

2012:
@Oklahoma State(Went 8-5, had close losses to Okahoma, Texas and Kansas State)
@North Texas(went 4-8)
Arkansas State(Went 10-3, with two losses @Nebraska and Orgeon, lead by David Oku)
@Florida(Went 11-2, lost by 7)

2013:
@Arkansas
@Kansas State




Interesting that he's only lost one home game, although North Texas and Western Kentucky are a bit concerning.

It's time for Mullen to use his New Hampshire connections. Take over that state.

I remember when I was fooled by sixpack into thinking we had a chance at getting Chip Petersen.

I dunno if I've ever seen a team move the ball at will one possession then completely shite the bed the rest of the time.. It's like watching homemade fireworks.

ETA: even though posting has been marginally more frequent on this page today, we're all still basically broken records since the Auburn game it feels like.

We need to have a second half coach. Mullen game plans for the first half. Tags out in the second half and lets another guy take over.