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Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:38 pm to
Posted by engie
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:38 pm to
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Sherrod did not redshirt. He played his freshmen year, and then he played his sophomore year, then he played his Junior year and was good. He had 2 years of playing experience under his belt and was good the 3rd year.

Your LT and RT are sophomores and have 1 season of experience as backups. This year for them is not equivalent to Sherrod's 3rd year.



And Sherrod sucked for 2 years. So, basically, you think an OL will only be good after 20+ starts...that is what you are saying right? Tobias Smith should really suck with his 4 career starts then...

You think experience is more important, and I think age and physical/mental maturity are more important. The number of repetitions is important...but 95% of those happen in practice anyway. Clausell gained 25lb and went up over 100lbs in squat max since he played last season. That's a big arse difference.

By your reasoning, Pierce Burton is a huge question mark right? He was rated basically identical to Siddoway coming out of JUCO.

This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 7:42 pm
Posted by engie
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:40 pm to
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It would probably just be easier to call it "our greatest concern" and then perhaps we could all agree.


Well-termed

It's our greatest concern, along with Russell's health, and the kicking game/special teams...
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:47 pm to
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The number of repetitions is important...but 95% of those happen in practice anyway






Just.....no.
Posted by umrebel2009
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:55 pm to
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And Sherrod sucked for 2 years. So, basically, you think an OL will only be good after 20+ starts...that is what you are saying right? Tobias Smith should really suck with his 4 career starts then...


You don't have to be starting to gain in game experience. You seriously don't think players get better from actually having experience in real games??


quote:


You think experience is more important, and I think age and physical/mental maturity are more important. The number of repetitions is important...but 95% of those happen in practice anyway. Clausell gained 25lb and went up over 100lbs in squat max since he played last season. That's a big arse difference.


Repetitions in practice help, but practice is nothing like actual game experience. If you don't understand that then you've obviously never played football

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By your reasoning, Pierce Burton is a huge question mark right?


Any Juco is a huge question mark until you actually see them out on the field in a game, there's a big difference in juco and the SEC.

and by your reasoning my dad would be a badass SEC LT because he's older and strong.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:08 pm to
will you two just frick and get it over with?
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:54 pm to
This
Posted by engie
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:13 pm to
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You don't have to be starting to gain in game experience.

Which is exactly what you've been arguing against this whole time. This is what I've been saying all along. We've got some experience in 4 of the 5 spots. Clausell took 50% of the snaps last season at LT. Day took almost every snap at C from the first quarter of Game3(Tobias Smith's injury against LSU) until the end of the season. Jackson and Smith are upperclassmen that have experience. Right tackle is the only position where we're actually inexperienced, but as I pointed out, we are talented there as well.

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You seriously don't think players get better from actually having experience in real games??

Sure they do. Where did I say otherwise? Our starters will be better by the end of the season than they are in the beginning. Then we will be one of the most experienced OL in the SEC next season.

You are trying to twist this into me saying "experience doesn't matter." I didn't say that. I simply said that practice, weight training, and maturity on the OL are FAR MORE important than game experience in a player's first 2 years on campus. I do NOT want ANY OL stepping on the field there until they are at least rsSO. If they are, that means we really screwed up in recruiting along the way.

By your reasoning, you should have had one of the best OL in the country last year. After all, it was VERY experienced...
Posted by engie
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:15 pm to
I'm done with it now until games are played. Said my part. Can't prove that I'm right until then anyway...
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 3:03 am to
Any actual recruiting going on up in this bitch?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:31 am to
Justin Cox ............... SOON
Posted by sharpSee
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:38 am to
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Any actual recruiting going on up in this bitch?


Every 10 pages or so there will be a nugget.

'Mornin
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Big Bam
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:22 pm to
Steve Robertson ?@ScoutSteveR
Four star OL Jake Thomas has committed to Mississippi State
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:24 pm to
We didn't want him anyw.....
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:27 pm to
Jake is a HUGE get
Posted by engie
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:29 pm to
BOOM! Finally!
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:32 pm to
How? Everyone was railing on him just last week.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:35 pm to
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How? Everyone was railing on him just last week.


4 star Brah
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:39 pm to
Bundy loves his stars.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/15/12 at 12:42 pm to
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Bundy loves his stars.



amazing how that works out.
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