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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:46 pm to reel_gator8
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:46 pm to reel_gator8
You can kiss mine when once again I am right.
Just like I was day one with Macs staff and its lacking stud recruiters, a linebacker coach coaching RBs, and a very average cord(man was I spot on there huh). Called a fool and an idiot for that of course.
The fact is, Mac isn't good enough. I will place a lifetime bet Mac will not win the SEC by year five. Long time away, but most of us will probably still be here. Mac just isn't a championship level coach. He is Richt, minus the ability to beat better teams.
You can come say sorry next year when we suck yet again. Took you douchebags that long for Muschamp too. Sad. The obvious ignored by the blind.
Just like I was day one with Macs staff and its lacking stud recruiters, a linebacker coach coaching RBs, and a very average cord(man was I spot on there huh). Called a fool and an idiot for that of course.
The fact is, Mac isn't good enough. I will place a lifetime bet Mac will not win the SEC by year five. Long time away, but most of us will probably still be here. Mac just isn't a championship level coach. He is Richt, minus the ability to beat better teams.
You can come say sorry next year when we suck yet again. Took you douchebags that long for Muschamp too. Sad. The obvious ignored by the blind.
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:51 pm to tjv305
I can't see how any possibly could say he is the best coach for UF. The homers are just too scared of change. Rather beat bad teams and feel good about trying hard vs real teams. Plus...with Mac..there's always next year!!!
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:37 am to tjv305
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Does anyone think that Mac is the right coach for the job?
I really don't know yet, if improvement is made by the end of 2018 then Yes. If not, No, and it will be time for a change.
If i had to grade him thru 2 years and 5 games I would give him a B-. That is not good enough for our program but improvement is still possible.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:52 am to UFMatt
Fair grade
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:18 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Fair grade
I think we all agree that this isn't good enough, but if we continue to run coaches off after 2 or 3 years and continue all the negativity about the program we will struggle to get top notch coaches and recruits, and the death spiral will continue.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:26 pm to UFMatt
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I think we all agree that this isn't good enough, but if we continue to run coaches off after 2 or 3 years and continue all the negativity about the program we will struggle to get top notch coaches and recruits, and the death spiral will continue.
Yep, and you got hammered for talking about fans who shite on quarterbacks and head coaches.
I think Muschamp is to blame to some degree for this sentiment as well -- because we gave him some leash. WAY more than he deserved, and a lot of us knew beforehand that he was not ready to run a program.
MY problem, though, is that they want our current HC to magically cure our offense in two years when it's been sick for six before he stepped on campus.
And frick you guys, I saw how everyone shite all over Driskel and Del Rio. Can you imagine having to defend yourself from retarded fans on Twitter over the Summer while your arm is healing frm surgery?
Driskel is an even worse example of this.
shite, people were stalking Corral and freaking the frick out because something was removed that no one seems to remember if it was actually there or not.
Our recruit had to ''clear things up'' because our fans are becoming absolutely intolerable.
Now an HC isn't doing well with his second string offense and defense essentially taking the field -- it's not News to me.
You lose both impact players on offense, then your redshirt junior quarterback who seems to get everyone lined up quicker and get our offense moving -- well yeah.
The numbers won't look good. Then you lose your big time receiver that the younger quarterback was doing pretty well with -- and shite starts to sink. We know it will.
We all agree that this has to improve, but we also need to agree that losing players isn't like putting in a new one. This isn't NCAA on the Playstation, you don't just put a new guy in who magically produces.
HOPEFULLY, the offense is retooled for Franks this weekend -- at least a little bit. But I understand that these things are pretty difficult to overcome, and that teams with HCs who have been around a whole hell of a lot longer are struggling without their starting quarterbacks (like FSU, for instance).
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:54 pm to Gatorbait2008
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The homers are just too scared of change
What is the next step after firing everyone? What is the plan to hire a proven coach that can compete with Saban, Dabo, Meyer, and Jimbo for national titles.
If you fire a HC without a plan UF could end up with a Dooley or Butch like coach that was the 5th choice. Firing is easy, hiring the right coach for UF is the hard part.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 1:37 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
Barrett Sallee
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Dodd reports that Penn State is preparing for Texas A&M to make a run at James Franklin. LINK
This is a plan
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@BarrettSallee
Dodd reports that Penn State is preparing for Texas A&M to make a run at James Franklin. LINK
This is a plan
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:11 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
I'd take James Franklin over any coach in America save for Nick Saban.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:14 pm to atlgator
We made a huge mistake not firing Muschamp in 2013 to get Franklin. Muschamp didn't deserve a 4th year and everyone in America expected him to fired, we had zero concerns over the optics of that decision.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:22 pm to bgator85
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We made a huge mistake not firing Muschamp in 2013 to get Franklin. Muschamp didn't deserve a 4th year and everyone in America expected him to fired, we had zero concerns over the optics of that decision.
I walked out of the Georgia Southern game thinking Muschamp would be fired.
Not sure if Foley would have hired Franklin with everything that went on at Vandy.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:28 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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I walked out of the Georgia Southern game thinking Muschamp would be fired.
Not sure if Foley would have hired Franklin with everything that went on at Vandy.
Same, still hard to believe he was given a 4th year.
I don't know if he would have hired him either, but there could have been so much pressure that he had to at least give him a look and check out the situation. It seemed like Franklin was all anyone was talking about.
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:37 pm to bgator85
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Same, still hard to believe he was given a 4th year.
I don't know if he would have hired him either, but there could have been so much pressure that he had to at least give him a look and check out the situation. It seemed like Franklin was all anyone was talking about.
Foley must have had the same thought process as I had in a previous post.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:17 pm to UFMatt
So having very little to no improvement in 3 years is not good enough ? He needs a 4th year ? I am not surprised that no one is willing to actually say they believe he is the right coach for the job. Even you guys who support him on here know that he likely going to be a failure.
I would give him a C- . He has improved the talent at on the team at RB and WR but we have lost talent on defense. So far he hasn't been much of a improvement over Muschamp. I would have preferred to just Muschamp because the team would be more talented as hole .
You admit he has not been good enough for our program but you want to keep him ? What does he need to do to get fired?
I would give him a C- . He has improved the talent at on the team at RB and WR but we have lost talent on defense. So far he hasn't been much of a improvement over Muschamp. I would have preferred to just Muschamp because the team would be more talented as hole .
You admit he has not been good enough for our program but you want to keep him ? What does he need to do to get fired?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:22 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
Of course the plan would be to hire a good HC . Would you want the team to go out and get his replacement to agree on the job before He is fired?
There is enough coaches out there that are at smaller jobs we would get one unless we're cheap. Franklin and Fuente would be good reasonable choices. At this point I would even take Bobby Petrino.
There is enough coaches out there that are at smaller jobs we would get one unless we're cheap. Franklin and Fuente would be good reasonable choices. At this point I would even take Bobby Petrino.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:41 pm to tjv305
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Of course the plan would be to hire a good HC . Would you want the team to go out and get his replacement to agree on the job before He is fired?
There is enough coaches out there that are at smaller jobs we would get one unless we're cheap. Franklin and Fuente would be good reasonable choices. At this point I would even take Bobby Petrino.
The team, no. Our AD in a low key fashion or a booster directed by the AD, yes. Judgement of interest in an unoffical capacity.
Learn from the situation that caused UF to hire Zook. All of the coaches we wanted did not want to step into a job with such high expectations.
If UF fires Mac this year, any potential replacement will likely think that they will get fired for 2 division titles and one bad year.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:43 pm to tjv305
I still think Mac is the guy for the job. Where we at right now is obviously not where we need to be, but I do think Mac is the guy for the job.
Dude, we lost to GEORGIA SOUTHERN under Muschamp. As LDR would say, you have the memory of a goldfish. Mac has lost 1 game that we were Vegas favorites in. Again, that's not the bar and not the standard at UF. But to say that the team would be better off with Muschamp and that were not improved from where we were with Muschamp is absolutely ridiculous.
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So far he hasn't been much of a improvement over Muschamp. I would have preferred to just Muschamp because the team would be more talented as hole
Dude, we lost to GEORGIA SOUTHERN under Muschamp. As LDR would say, you have the memory of a goldfish. Mac has lost 1 game that we were Vegas favorites in. Again, that's not the bar and not the standard at UF. But to say that the team would be better off with Muschamp and that were not improved from where we were with Muschamp is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:54 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You think every fan base doesn't do this? Every Sec team does this for Pete's sake lol. Its part of being famous. Hot girls and internet bashing. How it works now. Every none elite QB is tarnished. As for recruiting, everyone does that as well. Not just us. So stop acting like its some unique UF thing. Its all major programs,
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:57 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
I walked out of that game so mad I almost fought a homeless guy at the gas station. Then my friend settled me down and I got him Mcdonalds and a six pack to apologize. Then headed back to Tampa, so happy it was over. Muschamp was gone.
Then of course...he gets another year :(
Then of course...he gets another year :(
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:50 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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If UF fires Mac this year, any potential replacement will likely think that they will get fired for 2 division titles and one bad year.
That's the way a Mac supporter would look at it. I think an offensive minded head coach with confidence would be wanting this job because Mac won the east twice in 3 years with no offense. If I was a potential hire I would be more worried about the defense starting to look like it's taken a step back . If a coach wants to win a championship then he has to deal with the pressure.
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