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What actually are Napier's "Plan" and "Process" ?

Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by Partha
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 9:00 am
His big selling point when he was hired was that he "had a plan" and was organized etc.

Obviously the organization part turned out to be bullshite, and I think I figured out what his plan was: He was hoping to land a lot of elite recruits by telling them that he "has a plan".

But I wonder what actually is his "process"?

Is it just a buzz word that he used to try to sound like he knows what he's doing?
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:38 am to
He's planned on winning and is processing why he is not.

Seriously, I think he thought that his coaching style would scale up to the SEC level with recruiting. What he's realizing is that he's not as football smart as he may have thought. He's no Nick Saban.

He does have some CEO-type qualities, similar to Bobby Bowden and he should leverage that and adopt a style similar to his, which is to surround himself with other good coaches and let them handle the footballing stuffs.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 10:54 am to
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He does have some CEO-type qualities
I was hoping he would. Anything in particular stand out to you?

I really don't see him as CEO type HC either imo.

- He doesn't delegate well (play calling despite having 2 OL coaches and 100000 assistants)

- His org chart is a mess (2 DCs who don't call plays, 2 OCs in Sale and Russ who don't call plays, hiring a toxic Ron Roberts to be co HC so Billy can focus more on being a mediocre play caller). People's role are so ambiguous and convoluted, it's a huge mess.

- Doesn't seem to see the big picture and where he should devote his time and energy to making that big picture work. He does seem to know that talking like you have a big picture view is important, so I'll give him that over someone like Mullen who didn't GAF about it at all, but his actions (focusing on being OC, etc) indicate that he doesn't really "get it" despite him saying the platitudes suggesting that he might see the big picture.

- Refusing to change and adapt as much as he possibly can

- Poor strategic decision making off-the field too. An example was last signing day, not having DJ commit earlier in the day to pick up momentum while the class was falling apart and flipping to Auburn. He should have had a talk with DJ to bump up his announcement earlier in the day instead of late evening like it had happened to try to build some momentum to at least try to stop the bleeding.

I have been mostly disappointed by that with him. I expected a boring offense and less than stellar game day coaching (although was surprised it was this bad) but I thought he'd be good at the off-field and program building stuff. He's done some good there, not going to totally rail on him or discredit what he's done, but he's made many mistakes there that someone with his reputation should not have made.
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:01 pm to
Not CEO in a traditional business sense, but more as an overseer and ambassador type. We've fumbled NIL, but improvements have been made to the size of the staffing and facilities since he has arrived, which we had lagged behind on thanks to Foley.

He's also been a pretty good recruiter, but he's now at the point that without results this will start slipping.

The closest coach I can compare him to is Bobby Bowden. He left the coaching and football stuff to the assistant coaches while he closed the deal with recruits and speaking engagements at the FCA. Most of the game he didn't even wear a headset.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:33 pm to
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The closest coach I can compare him to is Bobby Bowden. He left the coaching and football stuff to the assistant coaches while he closed the deal with recruits and speaking engagements at the FCA. Most of the game he didn't even wear a headset
The problem we have is Billy wants to be more involved with all that stuff
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53951 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:21 am to
If he just hired an OC, he'd probably have a winning record at Florida honestly.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:16 am to
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If he just hired an OC, he'd probably have a winning record at Florida honestly.


That would've helped. He should've hired one from the start but year 2 at the latest should've been the time.

Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:44 pm to
Sorry. I'm just really frustrated.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:22 pm to
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I'm just really frustrated.
You're not alone there
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 9:46 am to
Napier is far from a competent CEO. A competent CEO, ala Nick Sabin, would have clear goals and metrics for his staff. When they fail to meet these goals, they are cut loose. Sabin may be thought to be a real SOB but if you worked for him you either got the job done or you were gone.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Sabin may be thought to be a real SOB but if you worked for him you either got the job done or you were gone.


Saban is brutal to his AC's. I worked with a guy who used to coach at the college level and hes still good friends with Coach Boom. They would talk on the phone when he worked for Saban and he would be like hey coach I gotta go, we got ANOTHER fkn coach's meeting. Lets see who loses their arse today.
He said Saban babies his players compared to what he does to his ACs
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Saban is brutal to his AC's. I worked with a guy who used to coach at the college level and hes still good friends with Coach Boom. They would talk on the phone when he worked for Saban and he would be like hey coach I gotta go, we got ANOTHER fkn coach's meeting. Lets see who loses their arse today.
He said Saban babies his players compared to what he does to his ACs


Seems like Billy is very buddy buddy with his assistants.

Who knows what he's like behind closed doors, but seeing how many of them have hung around these past few seasons despite being complete dead weight strongly suggests it.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:39 pm to
I will admit Billy seems to have done some good, but the errors he mad were too frequent and too soon, and he took way too long to correct these issues, or start trying to correct them.

Mark Hocke was a bad hire from the start, and nothing changed until the start of year 3.

That move could've started being made the moment we lost to FSU. Maybe not have a hire announced, but demoting Hocke to show fans we were serious about making changes. Instead he waits the last possible minute to hire someone, who then doesn't like it here for whatever reason, and bails to BC. Now we're stuck with either the guy he just demoted or the intern of that guy.

You could say it was in bad taste of Fitzgerald to leave when he did (makes you wonder what the motivation was, heard it was because Billy was too rigid and wanted to micro manage the program and Fitz wanted to do it his way...who knows but whatever the reason, he left) but the whole scenario is just yet another example of how Billy's "methodical" aka slow approach to these things leave him for the littlest margin for error.

Or how, in year 1, he was so slow in the portal. We admittedly needed a lot of talent because Mullen left behind a disaster, but Napier was way too passive with it. Even year 2 he started pretty slow in the portal, although he did end up getting a few decent WRs and that kid from San Diego State. Portal didn't end up being as bad as it looked at the start of the cycle, but it could've been way stronger had Billy not sat on his hands for so long.

It's just always too little too late for Napier. And how he approaches things makes it hard to sympathize for when we have "bad luck" because these bad breaks, which happen to everyone, is accentuated by gaps in our roster, coaching, and systems that come from Napier's approach.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7256 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 7:24 pm to
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