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re: We're looking at 6-6 or 7-5 next year
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:31 pm to boXerrumble
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:31 pm to boXerrumble
Michigan had about as much to play for today as Florida. And they came and made us look like idiots.
Our coaches caught lightning in a bottle with Grier and we looked like a good team for a few weeks, but with a mediocre QB - they tanked. TANKED. Worse than the Michigan offense from the last 2 years.
Then they lost the team, like really lost them. The defense was crap the last 2 games.
The coaches need to take a long look in the mirror this off season and pray they find a better QB.
Our coaches caught lightning in a bottle with Grier and we looked like a good team for a few weeks, but with a mediocre QB - they tanked. TANKED. Worse than the Michigan offense from the last 2 years.
Then they lost the team, like really lost them. The defense was crap the last 2 games.
The coaches need to take a long look in the mirror this off season and pray they find a better QB.
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Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:48 pm to gatordmb89
That doesn't explain the god awful defense or bad coaching decisions. A fake punt run on 4th and 8 with Bryan was Muschamp dumb. I will say this, if Mac loses more than 2 games next year he should be fired. That schedule has 10 wins on it easy.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:49 pm to tjv305
Todays game was absolutely unwatchable after most of the third quarter....I have banned stepson from coming over to watch Gator games on TV with me...j/k.
I am a little concerned about the offensive coaching and lack of adjustments...Fred Johnson # 74 ROT was taken to school almost every passing play...he is a true frosh and should have been give some blocking help and it was only a couple of plays where that happened....it also happened all year whether Johnson or Halter played...both needed help and didnt get it. The result was numerous sacks, badly thrown balls, picks, illegal grounding calls or batted balls at the line...over and over. Why?
Our TEs are a liability in blocking schemes...Lewis, McGee and Goolsby (who has dropped several passes in his hands lately) are all decent receivers but cant block well.
Next year will be determined as a prediction by me after spring game and how QB plays. If Neal and Maye return or not will also be a huge factor.
I am a little concerned about the offensive coaching and lack of adjustments...Fred Johnson # 74 ROT was taken to school almost every passing play...he is a true frosh and should have been give some blocking help and it was only a couple of plays where that happened....it also happened all year whether Johnson or Halter played...both needed help and didnt get it. The result was numerous sacks, badly thrown balls, picks, illegal grounding calls or batted balls at the line...over and over. Why?
Our TEs are a liability in blocking schemes...Lewis, McGee and Goolsby (who has dropped several passes in his hands lately) are all decent receivers but cant block well.
Next year will be determined as a prediction by me after spring game and how QB plays. If Neal and Maye return or not will also be a huge factor.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 11:27 pm to reel_gator8
Both of them( Maye, Neal) looked lost today
Posted on 1/1/16 at 11:59 pm to jefffan
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Both of them( Maye, Neal) looked lost today
They ain't goin' no where.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 4:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Heres some stats to sprinkle on your morning cereal:
UM only punted once all game.
UM had balance with run/pass yards and put on a clinic against what is our strength...the DL. Khairi Clark was abused all game long during his too frequent rotation on the DL. It wasnt a coincidence that UM kept running to their left side where Clark was.
UF had a grand total of 28 freaking yds of offense in second half after posting 200+ yds in first frame. Once they were up by two scores it was over and our coaches and UMs coaches both knew we would have to throw away the gameplan and throw more ...not that we did well running in the first half except for Treons runs.
This was the first game all year that our defense didnt get many stops behind the line of scrimmage...penetration was minimal. The defense was manhandled...we were outcoached, out hustled and effort was missing from most players...except Tabor, Morrison, Davis and a few others.
Good news is that Clark, Bryan, Holley are young and will improve or at least I hope so.
BTW what a coincidence that Hardin tweaked his ankle...I aint buying it....and if you believe that I have underwater land I wanna sell you.
All we can hope for is a team next year that plays hard all year long and doesnt fade later in the year. That would be an alarming trend.
UM only punted once all game.
UM had balance with run/pass yards and put on a clinic against what is our strength...the DL. Khairi Clark was abused all game long during his too frequent rotation on the DL. It wasnt a coincidence that UM kept running to their left side where Clark was.
UF had a grand total of 28 freaking yds of offense in second half after posting 200+ yds in first frame. Once they were up by two scores it was over and our coaches and UMs coaches both knew we would have to throw away the gameplan and throw more ...not that we did well running in the first half except for Treons runs.
This was the first game all year that our defense didnt get many stops behind the line of scrimmage...penetration was minimal. The defense was manhandled...we were outcoached, out hustled and effort was missing from most players...except Tabor, Morrison, Davis and a few others.
Good news is that Clark, Bryan, Holley are young and will improve or at least I hope so.
BTW what a coincidence that Hardin tweaked his ankle...I aint buying it....and if you believe that I have underwater land I wanna sell you.
All we can hope for is a team next year that plays hard all year long and doesnt fade later in the year. That would be an alarming trend.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 1:13 pm to reel_gator8
Should Foley reach out to Chip Kelly just to see if he is interested?
Posted on 1/2/16 at 1:51 pm to Edearl Watson
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Chip Kelly
I don't understand this "sky is falling" mentality among gator fans right now.Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:19 pm to boXerrumble
I'm as digusted as everyone else, but I believe a bad bowl performance is no different than a good one in regards to the next season. What concerns me is any possible recruits who are on the fence with UF and see the last 3 games could hurt us.
If Del Rio is a good game manager, they should be much better than this year.The O line should be really good along with the running game. A top 5 recruiting class is still possible.
The East is in a transition period. Georgia will take a step back, Mizz is in Chaos. The UF/UT winner will be the favorite.
It's easy to feel ilke the sky's falling right now, but 6-6 or 7-5
You have to look at the big picture.
If Del Rio is a good game manager, they should be much better than this year.The O line should be really good along with the running game. A top 5 recruiting class is still possible.
The East is in a transition period. Georgia will take a step back, Mizz is in Chaos. The UF/UT winner will be the favorite.
It's easy to feel ilke the sky's falling right now, but 6-6 or 7-5
You have to look at the big picture.Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:28 pm to NeathOrangeandBlue
I don't have a sky is falling mentality. I wasn't advocating for anything. I was merely asking a question.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:32 pm to olemc999
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I'm more worried about the defense. They look terrible right now and they have looked that way from the first snap.
Not me. The defense played like they were in the Citris Bowl or something......wait it was the Citrus bowl. Hargraves obviously was daydreaming about cahing that signing bonus!
The defense will strong next year, like always.
My only concern would be the coaching staff's inability to motivate this team for a average bowl game. I love MAC but he went againt a more serious, Saban like coach yesterday. His team was motivated
I wouldn't trade our coach for anyone right now. I hope that feeling lasts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:32 pm to Edearl Watson
I wouldnt want Chip. He ll be looking to jump ship if another opportunity arises
Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:40 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Mac can only do so much with the absolute horror show left behind by Muschamp
I disagree, and I HATE Moosedump
That was a top shelf defense all year that allowed us to get 10. All but 1 player was left by the last staff. The defensive cupboard was so full you couldn't close the door!
Posted on 1/2/16 at 4:13 pm to Swampdweller87
Still gotta score
Posted on 1/2/16 at 4:57 pm to Edearl Watson
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I don't have a sky is falling mentality
I wasn't calling you out specifically. If anything I read your comment as sarcastic. This board isn't bad, but read GC you'd think Mac and Nuss killed their first born son or something. Its year one.
Mac knows what it takes to win championships because he's done it. He knows how to build a program because he's done it. Muschamps players have no idea what it takes to be Bama. This years juniors have only ever played on shite teams. Its gonna take 2-3 years just for him to get a full cycle of players who buy in to his program.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 6:07 pm to Edearl Watson
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Watson
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Should Foley reach out to Chip Kelly just to see if he is interested?
Watson...Im trying to stifle my inner nasty demeanor with crude remarks cause I know you mean well....so did Capt Smith on the Titanic...
Listen carefully: Chip Kelly HATES college football and has repeated that mantra before heading to the NFL...he does not like recruiting. Get it? Got it? End of story. But I beg to differ sir on your resposnse that you were just asking a question...its the same thing that fans do after horrible loss..."what about so & so at Big Rock? He might be available"
Believe me UF fans are the epitome of impatience. No one is happy right now and Im at the front of the line...but lets see what happens the next two years. Three years is them minimal amount of time a HC should be given to turn things around. McElwain did a very good job when we had a good QB and no one can blame him for Griers actions. If we go 7-5 next season I wouldnt like it but I could accept it...UT in Knoxvegas, LSU at home, Arkie away and the girls school away are tough games. If he pulls off a 10 win season then extend his contract.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 7:05 pm to reel_gator8
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UF had a grand total of 28 freaking yds of offense in second half after posting 200+ yds in first frame
Great point Reel. This is exactly what I was talking about. At halftime Mac had a huge smile on his face talking about having fun and coming out and slinging the ball around and we got 28 yards. This is my concern exactly with the coaching. If you watched Nuss at Michigan last year they were below average on offense and had zero excitement. Nuss was brought in because of his familiarity with Mac that's it. But I also know offensively we are young and had a glorified Grocery Bagger at QB. Next year we will really see the kind of offense we will have but even then I think we are 2 years away from having a true Mac run offense.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:01 pm to gatorbait_007
We saw flashes when we had a QB who could hit a 20 yard curl
Dont forget just how awful Treon was. Easy throws were missed on a reg basis
But thats over
Dont forget just how awful Treon was. Easy throws were missed on a reg basis
But thats over
Posted on 1/2/16 at 8:26 pm to Swampdweller87
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That was a top shelf defense all year that allowed us to get 10. All but 1 player was left by the last staff. The defensive cupboard was so full you couldn't close the door!
Dude when your offensive line has three true freshmen playing, your best receiver is a true freshmen, your best quarterback is a redshirt freshmen, your best running back is a freshman (I personally feel they should have touched the ball much more than they did) and you lose the most important position (QB), there ain't shite you can do to stay competitive.
Our defense lost the game yesterday, moreso than the offense and they played like absolute horseshite because a lot of them had their feet out the door already.
It's what happens every year a first year head coach takes over.
Muschamp left behind, possibly, the worst offense we've had in over 30 years. And in this day and age, you can't rely solely on your offense. Alabama is good because their offense is good, but if you're on the field the whole game there isn't shite you can do.
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Our OL problems started when Urban was almost out the door and he signed 2 OL players....then Muschamp followed suit with 2 more...but I understand somewhat why....he tried his best to build a defense that was going to be a SEC tough unit after he inherited a soft team in 2011.
Straw...you are intelligent enough to recognize that Boom took our defense and molded it into a very stout unit. The offense I'll give you but lets not forget that Driskel and Brissett were true sophs and inexperienced somewhat, it was obvious Driskel was the better QB and all one has to do is look at NC State against anyone with a pulse to see Brissett was average. In 2012, Booms second year we went to a BCS bowl...with that defense and running Gillislee.
In 2013 we had the bottom fall out with injuries and it resulted in 3rd string QB starting after LSU game. In 2014 we had mixed results and no one wanted to see it repeated.
Enter 2015 and a new HC and new promise...a year that was half and half. Painfully hard to watch after UGA. The QB situation wasnt of McElwains doing. Muschamp did recruit a lot more offensive talent in his last two years but it was too little too late. The lack of recruiting OL for 5 years came to roost.
Our defense in yesterdays game was not what anyone expected. A brilliant unit before then. My concerns on offense have been stated...but it is basically adjusting to pass rushes...not blitzs....UM didnt have to blitz. Four man front and seven in coverage makes it tough to throw. They kept safties back and we were inept at OL blocking.
Hard to make chicken salad out of chicken shite and our OL was abused....but WHY not go to max protect? Treon isnt going to scan the field for 4-5 receivers anyway. We needed him to stand in the pocket and deliver...but pass rush was immediate at times. I thought maybe we could keep throwing a lot and get the UM defense worn down in the heat....then run...well....other than Treon running in the first half....no way could we move their DL.
Straw...you are intelligent enough to recognize that Boom took our defense and molded it into a very stout unit. The offense I'll give you but lets not forget that Driskel and Brissett were true sophs and inexperienced somewhat, it was obvious Driskel was the better QB and all one has to do is look at NC State against anyone with a pulse to see Brissett was average. In 2012, Booms second year we went to a BCS bowl...with that defense and running Gillislee.
In 2013 we had the bottom fall out with injuries and it resulted in 3rd string QB starting after LSU game. In 2014 we had mixed results and no one wanted to see it repeated.
Enter 2015 and a new HC and new promise...a year that was half and half. Painfully hard to watch after UGA. The QB situation wasnt of McElwains doing. Muschamp did recruit a lot more offensive talent in his last two years but it was too little too late. The lack of recruiting OL for 5 years came to roost.
Our defense in yesterdays game was not what anyone expected. A brilliant unit before then. My concerns on offense have been stated...but it is basically adjusting to pass rushes...not blitzs....UM didnt have to blitz. Four man front and seven in coverage makes it tough to throw. They kept safties back and we were inept at OL blocking.
Hard to make chicken salad out of chicken shite and our OL was abused....but WHY not go to max protect? Treon isnt going to scan the field for 4-5 receivers anyway. We needed him to stand in the pocket and deliver...but pass rush was immediate at times. I thought maybe we could keep throwing a lot and get the UM defense worn down in the heat....then run...well....other than Treon running in the first half....no way could we move their DL.
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