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Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:25 am
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:25 am
I want to make a friendly bet with you 3. If UGA wins by more than 21, I want you to all acknowledge that Kirby is a good coach (straws), and UF is not that good this year (reel gator & ATLgator). If UGA somehow loses, or y'all keep it within 21 points, then I will come back and eat my crow, and I will ban myself from the UF board until the end of the football season. Do we have a bet?
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:01 am to UGADawg912
Why the frick do we let posters from other teams come here to troll?
Anyone can admit that Kirby is a great coach -- with other guy's players at a team that wasn't struggling to begin with.
It's not like he took over 4 - 8, 7 - 6 Florida.
He took on 10 - 3, 10 - 3, 9 - 4, 10 - 3, 10 - 3 Georgia in one of the worst years the East has ever seen.
Vanderbilt (who beat Georgia last year at home) is struggling and you guys got fortunate to catch them at the end of a KSU, Alabama, Florida skid.
Kentucky is decent I guess? Doesn't look like it after MSU.
SC is meh.
Missouri is a dumpster fire.
Tennessee is worse than a dumpster fire.
Florida has 21 scholarship players either out or questionable.
It's not impressive to ride two five star senior running backs 80% of the time against an exceptionally poor East.
You were pretty fricking quiet last year when King Kirby barely kept you guys bowl elligible. It'll be back to that once he rides out Richt's players like Muschamp did Meyer's.
Anyone can admit that Kirby is a great coach -- with other guy's players at a team that wasn't struggling to begin with.
It's not like he took over 4 - 8, 7 - 6 Florida.
He took on 10 - 3, 10 - 3, 9 - 4, 10 - 3, 10 - 3 Georgia in one of the worst years the East has ever seen.
Vanderbilt (who beat Georgia last year at home) is struggling and you guys got fortunate to catch them at the end of a KSU, Alabama, Florida skid.
Kentucky is decent I guess? Doesn't look like it after MSU.
SC is meh.
Missouri is a dumpster fire.
Tennessee is worse than a dumpster fire.
Florida has 21 scholarship players either out or questionable.
It's not impressive to ride two five star senior running backs 80% of the time against an exceptionally poor East.
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I will ban myself from the UF board until the end of the football season.
You were pretty fricking quiet last year when King Kirby barely kept you guys bowl elligible. It'll be back to that once he rides out Richt's players like Muschamp did Meyer's.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 2:03 am
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:31 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You were pretty fricking quiet last year when King Kirby barely kept you guys bowl elligible.
I actually just asked for access to this board maybe 3 weeks ago.
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Anyone can admit that Kirby is a great coach -- with other guy's players at a team that wasn't struggling to begin with.
My point Exactly, You say it, but you put in "with another coaches players".
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Why the frick do we let posters from other teams come here to troll?
I am not trolling UF fans, most on here are actually reasonable and rational, but you three are the main ones I see that think UF are world beaters.
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It's not impressive to ride two five star senior running backs 80% of the time against an exceptionally poor East.
Don't forget about us beating Notre Dame in there place. Miss State got steam rolled by us. App state is another 5 win team right now.
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Vanderbilt (who beat Georgia last year at home) is struggling and you guys got fortunate to catch them at the end of a KSU, Alabama, Florida skid.
I don't really think that matters seeing that we beat them 45-14 (at Vandy).
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It'll be back to that once he rides out Richt's players like Muschamp did Meyer's.
Kind of like how McElwain is doing Muschamps Players right? I don't know if you missed it, but Kirby held on to the 2016 class, after Richt was fired. Kirby brought in the #3 class for this past recruiting cycle, and we are #7 as of now for 2018, and WE AIN'T DONE YET!
ETA: Why are you scared to bet me? You are not even losing anything, but a little pride. I will be the one missing out on talking to you lovely 3 posters.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 2:33 am
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:57 am to UGADawg912
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My point Exactly, You say it, but you put in "with another coaches players".
Because that's what's going on. Kirby had an above average program BEFORE he came in, McElwain did not.
McElwain took a team that was barely bowling every year (and one year where we didn't) and did what little he could. Richt recruited BOTH sides of the ball (hence why you have 17 out of 22 upperclassmen starters and we have 5 on both sides of the ball)
Muschamp completely mismanaged the roster to the point where we couldn't run a scrimmage at practice for a lack of offensive linemen.
McElwain is doing well in spite of Muschamp, not because Muschamp left us some great team.
Do you know how many starters we have from Muschamp's era on offense?
Zero. Not one that an underclassmen hasn't outproduced or looked lightyears ahead of ANY offensive player that Muschamp left behind.
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I don't know if you missed it, but Kirby held on to the 2016 class, after Richt was fired. Kirby brought in the #3 class for this past recruiting cycle, and we are #7 as of now for 2018, and WE AIN'T DONE YET!
Georgia averaged 8th in recruiting before Kirby got there.
Georgia fans who can't fricking read: Georgia has not had a problem recruiting in recent history.
You guys are killing me with this narrative that Richt left some broken-arse program that couldn't get things done.
225 yards on the ground two years before Kirby got there.
Averaged 8th in recruiting for the last five years.
10 win average for the last five years.
McElwain took the number 93 class and turned it into 21 because Florida was a failing program.
He took a team that went 11 - 13 and went 19 - 8 over two seasons.
Kirby took a team that went 20 - 6 and turned it into a team that went 8 - 5.
What's more impressive, having a team that was actually recruited well and losing five games, or taking a team that had six scholarship offensive linemen, no quarterback (Treon Harris), one running back, one receiver and no kicker and getting 10 wins --
Or taking a team that regularly recruited top ten and went 8 - 5? If Kirby dropped any game this year, he should be humiliated because Georgia left him a *stacked* roster.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:24 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Our OL last year was the worst we have had since god knows when. I can't tell you how many kids from the 2013 recruiting class left the program, or got kicked off the team. Richt found a way to do what he did with the kids he had. Kirby is building a DEEP DEPTH CHART. Kirby is trying to build a program like Bama, and from the looks of it, he is on the right pace. You look at class rankings and past schedules. 2015 we had some UGLY losses because we had a transfer QB that lost his spot at freaking Virginia. Richt stopped recruiting key elements that the team actually NEEDED the last few years he was here. Kirby had a bad season last year, because he had to make due with what Richt left. Now, he has his own team, with players that are buying into his scheme. You should probably stick with UF football. If you are going to take the bet then do it. If not, On to the next one. Obviously you know you are going to get trounced on Saturday. I mean, I am even giving you 21 points.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 3:26 am
Posted on 10/22/17 at 7:36 am to UGADawg912
Uga fans are on the board because uf sucks and they think maybe they might not lose to uf this year.
That’s the reason.
That’s the reason.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:35 am to slayerxing
I don't make bets that the loser bans himself, way too many alters out there.
What makes you think I believe UF is a world beater? That's horseshite. I do not. However....I do know we can beat UGA, but not saying we will and not saying we wont either. If you looked at this board last year just before the LSU game rescheduled in red stick...you would have seen a lot of negative predictions. How'd that turn out?
This is a perfect game for UF because most do not give them much of a chance to win. That makes for a dangerous reptile.
I will repeat my theory based on solid history, it is extremely difficult for a team to go undefeated. You can look up the odds...its not good. Hey, 11-1 is damn good. 10-2 is great. The best team doesnt always win. A perfect example-2006 against AU when we won the BCS title and ditto 2008 against Ole Miss. Hell, I remember 1989 Ole Miss game to open the season in the Swamp and we outgained Ole Miss by plenty, more than doubled I believe and Ole Miss didn't have 200 yds of offense...but we lost.
I have never said anything about Smart or his coaching ability. I do know he has a senior laden defense along with a junior or two that will go pro. You might return 2 starters next year on defense....which is what we returned in 2007 after the BCS title. True soph Tebow had to hitch the team on his shoulders and he won the Heisman, that was the year UGA "celebrated" in the end zone. But revenge was sweet.
What makes you think I believe UF is a world beater? That's horseshite. I do not. However....I do know we can beat UGA, but not saying we will and not saying we wont either. If you looked at this board last year just before the LSU game rescheduled in red stick...you would have seen a lot of negative predictions. How'd that turn out?
This is a perfect game for UF because most do not give them much of a chance to win. That makes for a dangerous reptile.
I will repeat my theory based on solid history, it is extremely difficult for a team to go undefeated. You can look up the odds...its not good. Hey, 11-1 is damn good. 10-2 is great. The best team doesnt always win. A perfect example-2006 against AU when we won the BCS title and ditto 2008 against Ole Miss. Hell, I remember 1989 Ole Miss game to open the season in the Swamp and we outgained Ole Miss by plenty, more than doubled I believe and Ole Miss didn't have 200 yds of offense...but we lost.
I have never said anything about Smart or his coaching ability. I do know he has a senior laden defense along with a junior or two that will go pro. You might return 2 starters next year on defense....which is what we returned in 2007 after the BCS title. True soph Tebow had to hitch the team on his shoulders and he won the Heisman, that was the year UGA "celebrated" in the end zone. But revenge was sweet.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:04 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So the East is weak when UGA is winning it and it's not impressive but when Mac does it is? The east was the same the last 2 years. It's worse now You clown.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:14 am to UGADawg912
They just defended Mac and hype up the future teams . None of them actually believe in him.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:08 am to UGADawg912
Don't remember where I said I thought Florida was a good team.
All I've said about the Florida Georgia game is that I think it will be close, just like every other Florida game this season.
You have a lot of confidence for a fan of a team that's lost by double digits three years in a row.
Florida isn't great this year. They're not good enough to blow anybody out. But they are good enough to not get blown out. This will be a tight game. We obviously own the mental advantage over Georgia. 21-6 since 1990 and ruining so many Georgia seasons has you nervous enough to be posting on a Gator message board. Have a good, nervous week my man
All I've said about the Florida Georgia game is that I think it will be close, just like every other Florida game this season.
You have a lot of confidence for a fan of a team that's lost by double digits three years in a row.
Florida isn't great this year. They're not good enough to blow anybody out. But they are good enough to not get blown out. This will be a tight game. We obviously own the mental advantage over Georgia. 21-6 since 1990 and ruining so many Georgia seasons has you nervous enough to be posting on a Gator message board. Have a good, nervous week my man
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:14 am to atlgator
The last several years don't matter. Smh. We'll see that on Saturday
Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:26 pm to TJGator1215
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So the East is weak when UGA is winning it and it's not impressive but when Mac does it is? The east was the same the last 2 years. It's worse now You clown.
TJ, it's what you say every year.
Yes, considering Tennessee is looking for a new coach, Florida has in the realm of 15 - 21 scholarship players either suspended or injured, Vandy doesn't look good at all, Kentucky is okay, South Carolina is okay, Missouri has outright left the conference.
If Georgia had lost 15 - 21 players for our game, you'd never stop talking about how bad the East was when we won.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 12:56 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Mac has to hold some of the responsibility for the suspensions. He doesn't get a clean pass for that.
Injuries, well I guess he is just unlucky... three years in a row in that regard.
Injuries, well I guess he is just unlucky... three years in a row in that regard.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 1:02 pm to slayerxing
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Mac has to hold some of the responsibility for the suspensions
What could he have done? Honestly..
Posted on 10/22/17 at 2:53 pm to dbuchanon
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What could he have done? Honestly..
It's rare that a parent is held responsible for the actions of 18 - 22 year olds, but not for a coach, apparently.
They're grown arse men, he didn't make Grier take PEDs, he didn't make them commit fraud.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:40 pm to dbuchanon
Had more control over the team?
I mean... there must be something he can do better.
How many other coaches have allowed an organized group of players committing a felony?
He talks all the time about how he is teaching boys how to be men, and that its a higher calling than football, and then something like this happens?
He tells the team to focus on the little things, the details, during fall camp, and that message clearly has fallen on deaf ears. In a lot of different ways.
Ultimately, the product on the field and the performance of the players on and off the field falls on the shoulders of the head coach. Good and bad. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
I mean... there must be something he can do better.
How many other coaches have allowed an organized group of players committing a felony?
He talks all the time about how he is teaching boys how to be men, and that its a higher calling than football, and then something like this happens?
He tells the team to focus on the little things, the details, during fall camp, and that message clearly has fallen on deaf ears. In a lot of different ways.
Ultimately, the product on the field and the performance of the players on and off the field falls on the shoulders of the head coach. Good and bad. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:49 pm to slayerxing
Nick Saban just booted A back Up receiver off the team I guess he doesn't have control of his players.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 6:48 pm to reel_gator8
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I have never said anything about Smart or his coaching ability.
That is why is said straws beside that.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 6:51 pm to dbuchanon
LOL at you.
Are you really trying to say Nick Saban doesn't have control over the team?
Really?
frickING LOL. I'd laugh in your face right now if you were in front of me.
MAC IS NOT NICK SABAN. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Everyone loses a player here or there, but have you noticed with Nick it's almost always some back up that never plays? Almost never a starter in all his years.
Certainly not 9 guys committing a felony.
The worst thing was the text book scandal, and that was something that started under Shula, and ended in his first season. Since then it's been one off stuff, similar to Meyer.
Are you really trying to say Nick Saban doesn't have control over the team?
Really?
frickING LOL. I'd laugh in your face right now if you were in front of me.
MAC IS NOT NICK SABAN. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Everyone loses a player here or there, but have you noticed with Nick it's almost always some back up that never plays? Almost never a starter in all his years.
Certainly not 9 guys committing a felony.
The worst thing was the text book scandal, and that was something that started under Shula, and ended in his first season. Since then it's been one off stuff, similar to Meyer.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 7:22 pm to slayerxing
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LOL at you.
Are you really trying to say Nick Saban doesn't have control over the team?
So Sabans player gets kicked off the team and hes still great, Macs players get in trouble and its somehow Macs fault, he doesnt have control of his team? Dbl standard much? Your words man.
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frickING LOL. I'd laugh in your face right now if you were in front of me
Id bet $$ you wouldnt
Dont move the goalposts, you said that Coaches are responsible for players both on and off the field. Saying Mac doesnt have control over his players yet all you got is LOL when i bring up Bama players getting in trouble when Saban is considered Hitler of his team. Again, on the field, yes. When the pads cone off and the ppayers go home, its on them. Theyre big boys. Responsible for their own actions.
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