re: Same as Muschamp, time for change

Let's see what Davis does the next 2 years . The 3 best offensive players under Mac have all had major issue . Grier was busted for PEDs and left the team after 6 games . Callaway has been better then Robinson on the field but he is likely done on the team because he can't stay out of trouble. Scarlet hasn't played all year because he is a criminal and he may not return. If this coaching staff could keep it's players out of trouble we not suck so bad .

Uses recruiting rankings to "prove point"... discounts recruiting rankings when used to answer his rhetorical question... solid work Straws. Not sure whether everyone else caught what you were laying down, but I did.

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It looks bad when you start your post with a lie . Those QBs were not on the team when Muschamp got the coaching job. Driskell was committed in the up coming class and Brissett was a guy that Weiss recruited .

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Driskel was there in 2011, Brisset was there in 2011.

He had 3 quarterbacks -- the bullshite is saying he had one. Real quarterbacks, too. Driskel was just fine on another team, Brisset, too.

Kind of bad luck. To not have a single Freshman quarterback turn out alright on your team over the span of four years.

Muschamp killed those quarterbacks, McElwain was left, literally with one kinda quarterback in Treon Harris after Grier.

Totally different teams taken over.

D-Rob could ball man. He never had good coaching. That kid gave UF the best offensive performance by any offensive player since the Tebow era ended. I would kill to see another receiver have a dominant night like he did against UK. He was a 5 star recruit. The dudes in the NFL.

Kelvin Taylor was a 5 star recruit. He got a 1000 yard season in 2015 playing behind the worst oline I have ever seen at UF. Malik is playing behind a line that is light years ahead of that squad.

Fulwood was a 5 star recruit.

I can't help it McElwain couldn't really do nothing with them but if you are going by recruits then I will say this is what Muschamp left McElwain to work with.

D-Rob
Fulwood
Powell

Goolsby (kid is way underused, I liked Del Rio because he actually threw to him)

Kelvin Taylor

Will Grier

And a garbage arse offensive line.

Even I as a Muschamp hater can admit he left McElwain some pieces to work with.

NONE of those guys ever produced, they suffered from bad coaching the entire time around.

Muschamp did not have players that suffered from that -- he flat out killed players' futures who came to play for him.

Davis looks better than Taylor ever did, Callaway outproduced D-Rob.

That's not elite. That's average, mediocre.

We're going to have a true Freshman have a 1,000 yard season barring injury. Well on his way, with a higher average and the line ain't that much better -- just under new management.

Also: What is the use of having ''elite'' wide receivers who catch less than a true freshman, with a quarterback who can't get them the ball?

D-Rob only had six less catches than his last season with Muschamp -- so...

Maybe he just wasn't that frickin' good? Fulwood never did anything.

Powell is playing behind a true freshman in Toney.

Goolsby you got me, he's pretty good.

Will Grier got popped, after him there was no one.

There was *garbage* on offense, and outside of Goolsby there isn't a single Muschamp player contributing significantly. Not a running back, not a WR, not a QB. There's nothing left of that team on offense because they were all mismanaged.

Davis is better than Scarlett

Franks is the starter

The offense was in the hundreds with AC81 and Cleveland on the team last year. Worse in fact than now. It was in the 100s with Cleveland this year. Next excuse.

But the coaches thought he was the best starter. Then though Malik Zaire was better than ldr. Offensive coaches don't know what they are doing.

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ut it didn't as evidenced by LDR's pathetic stat line. Next lie.

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Won the games didnt we?? idgaf about players stats.

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Won the games didnt we?? idgaf about players stats.

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He's all about stats and numbers until it comes to the W-L column.

Del Rio moved the ball, calmed the offense down and was a presence on the field to get us in the right position with picking up blitzes.

For the line about the offensive coaches not knowing who the best QB was: How the frick could they? Only one had snaps in their offense, the fanbase shitted all over Del Rio and didn't want to see him again even though he was clearly the best guy.

I say we just limit our threads on this board to what our ''gameplans'' are for the next games, and not frick around with these bullshite arguments where all TJ does is talk numbers until they go against him.