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re: Reel...(and reflections)
Posted on 11/7/14 at 5:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 11/7/14 at 5:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I've had the unfortunate luck to watch several Florida games this year, and I must say that Driskel reminds me of Keihl Frazier. Interestingly enough, I do agree that Florida faces consistently long 3rd downs, but there are other options when it comes to trying to convert. Things like not turning the ball over come to mind.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 5:20 pm to gatordmb89
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He was having Driskel throw deep early in the game to strike fear in the defense. Problem is, several times the WR was open and he missed. If he hits on a FEW of those, it cleans up the box and now you are playing against 7 in the box instead of 8-9 for the rest of the game('s). He stopped throwing deep with Driskel late in games because it was essentially throwing away downs for no reason.
Yeah, I just don't think that style works at all. Like I said: In the beginning of the game your chances of getting beat deep are slim. You have to rely on their team being slow because in the beginning of the game they almost always play two deep, period.
One on one -- you got a better chance of completion.
One on one + safety help -- you have almost no shot at completing.
Especially in the beginning of the game.
And people miss WRs all the time, I'm going to repeat myself: I think most people are just looking for faults with Driskel from the onset, so everything he does is meticulously picked apart.
But, people miss receivers all the time, wide open. I hear that remark at least once a game -- and it's way easier to see the field from above than it is from behind the line.
People throw interceptions -- bad ones.
People make bad throws -- even when they're fantastic quarterbacks.
Manziel -- let's count how many cardinal rules of quarterbacking he's broken.
1. Throwing late.
2. Throwing into the center of the field.
3. Throwing off of his back foot.
4. Throwing against his body.
5. Throwing into quadruple coverage.
You want to know what the difference is, though, when he throws it vs. when Driskel throws it?
He knows his man is going to try his hardest to come down with that ball. He can trust his receiver -- and whether or not this is because his receiver can trust him to just lob the ball up is a good question.
The cohesion of the team has been a problem since Murphy transferred, and I personally don't feel like that's a Driskel problem. Murphy was right to transfer, but you back up your team no matter what.
Posted on 11/7/14 at 5:23 pm to sbr2
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I've had the unfortunate luck to watch several Florida games this year, and I must say that Driskel reminds me of Keihl Frazier. Interestingly enough, I do agree that Florida faces consistently long 3rd downs, but there are other options when it comes to trying to convert. Things like not turning the ball over come to mind.
There's a reason why when third and long goes up everyone sort of pays more attention -- it's more difficult. We face third and long a lot because of passes that have little chance of connecting (whether bad QB play, bad WR play or poor playcalling) and end up with second and ten, which is usually a predictable run, which puts us in a 3rd and 10+ situation.
And it's just too difficult to produce a lot when you're consistently in that position.
Oh and as an EDIT: Not dropping perfect passes on third down is also a pretty good way to convert.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/7/14 at 7:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Seriously I am starting to think you are a Troll on this thread for Driskel. It is over for Driskel. You have your opinion other people have theirs. No matter what you say nothing will change their mind. You are beating a dead horse. It is a waste of finger energy just let it go. I could go the rest of the season without seeing or hearing his name. The team has moved on its time for every Gator fan to do the same. Yes we know passes were dropped and we were in a lot of 3rd and longs. Lets look forward and not back at the past we should all agree we need to forget it. Its time.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 11/7/14 at 10:40 pm to gatordmb89
Straw, of the starting QBs in the SEC, what place would you rank Driskel
Posted on 11/7/14 at 11:29 pm to gatorbait_007
Driskel has the only part Tebow ever lacked: the 10 yard out route dart to a stationary reciever. That's it. Dude just isn't the leader a UF QB has to be, and Muschamp waited way too long to make the change.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:34 am to Rich Kotite
No doubt. Has been WM's downfall imo
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:43 am to Rich Kotite
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Dude just isn't the leader a UF QB has to be
That's the whole key right there. He's a fantastic athlete with minimal onfield mental acuity. There have been many others with the same problem that have made far more of their careers because of great leadership on the sidelines and in the huddle. JD just doesn't have it and the team has suffered.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:28 pm to gatorbait_007
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Seriously I am starting to think you are a Troll on this thread for Driskel. It is over for Driskel. You have your opinion other people have theirs. No matter what you say nothing will change their mind. You are beating a dead horse. It is a waste of finger energy just let it go. I could go the rest of the season without seeing or hearing his name. The team has moved on its time for every Gator fan to do the same. Yes we know passes were dropped and we were in a lot of 3rd and longs. Lets look forward and not back at the past we should all agree we need to forget it. Its time.
Yes, let's look beyond this problem because the evidence doesn't add up for the naysayers.
A troll is someone without legitimate arguments just trying to make people angry -- you highlighted it yourself.
That Driskel is no longer the quarterback does not suddenly absolve the conversation around it.
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How would you rank Driskel in the SEC.
Difficult to rank someone when the offense is playing like shite at every level. I really have no idea where I would rank him, I just know that he's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be.
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Driskel isn't a leader.
I'm fairly confident that Muschamp isn't the leader. People used to say that Meyer let the convicts run the prison, but I doubt a premier coach would let his players dictate who is quarterback by playing like shite than he himself.
You can't be a successful quarterback with 25~ drops in five games, several of those resulting in interceptions.
The team shouldn't be choosing players, period. That's when a head coach has simply lost control of the program, and it's fairly obvious that it's happened.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:29 pm to gatordmb89
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No doubt. Has been WM's downfall imo
And I get called the troll?
WM's downfall is running a pro-style offense with a battery of spread players.
Nothing says stupidity like running your 180 pound backs right at the line of scrimmage and wondering why we don't look like Bama.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Not that the way I remember it. Gilleslie was running over people in 2012.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And one last addendum: If you look at the LSU game when we thought Harris might be out forever -- Driskel had a damn good game.
If not for a crucial pair of drops near the end of the game (one in the end zone) -- we would have won it.
Five drops get turned into catches?
He's 19/25 for ~205 yards. Astronomically different result.
Driskel accounted for 71 yards of rushing in that game.
The rest of the team combined had 52.
If not for a crucial pair of drops near the end of the game (one in the end zone) -- we would have won it.
Five drops get turned into catches?
He's 19/25 for ~205 yards. Astronomically different result.
Driskel accounted for 71 yards of rushing in that game.
The rest of the team combined had 52.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:40 pm to olemc999
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Not that the way I remember it. Gilleslie was running over people in 2012.
Demps and Rainey weren't.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 5:46 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And Brantley would of looked awesome running the spread. 
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:04 pm to olemc999
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And Brantley would of looked awesome running the spread.
2010: Was 200-of-329 on the season with 2,061 yards, nine touchdowns, and a completion percentage of 60.8…
2011: Was 144-of-240 on the season with 2,044 yards, 11 touchdowns...
And he got more yards with Pouncey -- possibly the worst snapper in recent history.
His entire college career was played from the spread and I think he may have had more success.
Ironically, even with a terrible center in the spread offense, Meyer's has been better than any year Muschamp has coached.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:16 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
His entire college career was not in the spread. 2011 was pro style. He had better numbers in 2011 and played in less games due to an injury.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:39 pm to olemc999
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His entire college career was not in the spread. 2011 was pro style. He had better numbers in 2011 and played in less games due to an injury.
Before Muschamp came -- it was. Which was the point of this conversation.
And he also had to split reps with two other quarterbacks in 2011.
So yeah, Demps, Rainey and Brantley had not run the pro in college.
Ever.
Until he came.
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