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Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:40 pm to finchmeister08
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:40 pm to finchmeister08
I work in oil and gas, and in the Gulf of Mexico for over 10 years. Those platforms were being abandoned long before Keystone became a hot topic. Lots of those wells have been producing for 20 plus years and just don't make enough money to operate anymore.
Also reel - how does oil and gas destroy the fishing in Florida but it somehow makes it great over in Louisiana? Florida's water problem is overpopulation, not air pollution.
Also reel - how does oil and gas destroy the fishing in Florida but it somehow makes it great over in Louisiana? Florida's water problem is overpopulation, not air pollution.
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 6:09 am to HTXGator
HTX...I wish we had platforms in Fla. Great fishing on them and you are right about over population. I never stated that oil drilling affected water quality. Its auto emissions and huge plants with waste material dumping along with municipal waste dumping. Tampa used to dump untreated sewage into Tampa Bay...funny thing was multi millionaires that lived in Davis Islands/Bayshore area had to hold their noses at low tide.
My father and I owned a retail/wholesale seafood business in the '60s and '70s. We depended on shellfish for 85% of our production. Monsanto, which made carpet fibers and related products dumped millions of tons of chemicals off Pensacola and wiped out the panhandle....fish crabs, oysters were destroyed and the cost of seafood skyrocketed...we couldn't pass on the price to consumers and it made us shutdown a few years later.
Here in Fla. I got to witness land development and greedy politicians that took bribes and never cared that dredging in intercoastal waters destroyed sea grass. The bottom of the intercoastal waters and canals is now pure muck courtesy of dead sea grass and water quality turned clean pristine waters to junk.
I live in Pinellas County and we have 28 separate towns and cities...some were greedy...like Clearwater, which allowed rampant building of high rise condos and it looks like Miami Beach. Some towns wouldn't allow the growth of high rises and put strict height restrictions. Developers stayed away because they couldn't make $$$
I used to fish from Belle Isles and Port Fourchon...the old rigs in a lot of cases were replaced by jack up rigs, which weren't usually productive fishing. And as I stated before, hurricanes wiped out a lot of rigs...which in a lot of cases were never replaced.
Im not blaming pipeline building as an only factor. America has to change to more electric/solar/wind power to keep our grandchildren from facing huge problems. Charging stations will be built by the govt to aid the change...so far almost all auto makers are onboard with this. GMC is the only major one not yet agreeing, but they will if they want to sell autos in California.
We will still need gas/oil, a lot of industry cannot convert and existing autos will remain for 15-20 years. My biggest question is: did you ever fish off any rigs?
My father and I owned a retail/wholesale seafood business in the '60s and '70s. We depended on shellfish for 85% of our production. Monsanto, which made carpet fibers and related products dumped millions of tons of chemicals off Pensacola and wiped out the panhandle....fish crabs, oysters were destroyed and the cost of seafood skyrocketed...we couldn't pass on the price to consumers and it made us shutdown a few years later.
Here in Fla. I got to witness land development and greedy politicians that took bribes and never cared that dredging in intercoastal waters destroyed sea grass. The bottom of the intercoastal waters and canals is now pure muck courtesy of dead sea grass and water quality turned clean pristine waters to junk.
I live in Pinellas County and we have 28 separate towns and cities...some were greedy...like Clearwater, which allowed rampant building of high rise condos and it looks like Miami Beach. Some towns wouldn't allow the growth of high rises and put strict height restrictions. Developers stayed away because they couldn't make $$$
I used to fish from Belle Isles and Port Fourchon...the old rigs in a lot of cases were replaced by jack up rigs, which weren't usually productive fishing. And as I stated before, hurricanes wiped out a lot of rigs...which in a lot of cases were never replaced.
Im not blaming pipeline building as an only factor. America has to change to more electric/solar/wind power to keep our grandchildren from facing huge problems. Charging stations will be built by the govt to aid the change...so far almost all auto makers are onboard with this. GMC is the only major one not yet agreeing, but they will if they want to sell autos in California.
We will still need gas/oil, a lot of industry cannot convert and existing autos will remain for 15-20 years. My biggest question is: did you ever fish off any rigs?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:37 am to reel_gator8
No I've mostly worked deepwater rigs where you usually can't fish. Too bad because when the tuna run out there it gets pretty crazy.
I've done plenty of fishing in the Fourchon area. A lot of my family lives down there. Makes even idiots like me feel like I'm a great fisherman.
The problem with these bans in the U.S. is that it will be a net detriment to the environment and the economy. Oil will still be produced and consumed, just by Russia and Saudi Arabia where the environmental regulations are certainly less stringent than here. So we send them money, import their oil at greater environmental cost, sacrifice national security, lose jobs, and still wait probably the same amount of time for the great green revolution to occur in the meantime.
I've done plenty of fishing in the Fourchon area. A lot of my family lives down there. Makes even idiots like me feel like I'm a great fisherman.
The problem with these bans in the U.S. is that it will be a net detriment to the environment and the economy. Oil will still be produced and consumed, just by Russia and Saudi Arabia where the environmental regulations are certainly less stringent than here. So we send them money, import their oil at greater environmental cost, sacrifice national security, lose jobs, and still wait probably the same amount of time for the great green revolution to occur in the meantime.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 6:11 pm to finchmeister08
Bro trial by combat it was Rudy his last ride or die who sicked the mob on the Capitol. Still our prez pumped it up for weeks.
Tried to scare everyone into folding to his wishes. He lost dude flat out
Hate Obama and hate Biden Trump but absolutely love a man who says I just grab em by the pussy do what I want. Lol he legit does whatever and gets a pass from his proud trumpy boys and bears
Tried to scare everyone into folding to his wishes. He lost dude flat out
Hate Obama and hate Biden Trump but absolutely love a man who says I just grab em by the pussy do what I want. Lol he legit does whatever and gets a pass from his proud trumpy boys and bears
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 2/3/21 at 7:03 pm to Peter167
Posted on 2/3/21 at 7:08 pm to finchmeister08
Its really not too hard to understand. The man is massive douche. A proud douche actually. Do actually disagree?
Also full of shite. That's still being eaten. He didn't even win the popular vote vs Hillary lol
Yet it was a landslide this time but he had to beg for votes from Ga lol ok
Shout out Mitt Romney. He kept shite real
Why is anyone mad he lost a hate monger who helped lead the siege on the Capitol like a crybaby bitch lol let's not even talk the fall man. Comey what president needs a fall guy lol then puts all that pressure on his VP.
Man they wanted his arse dead u deny that? That was an attempt at stealing the election. Everything yall been crying about. Stealing every Democrat vote out of fear for orange god lol why idk
He said in debates he wouldn't accept the results. Or wouldn't say that he would I should say.
Also full of shite. That's still being eaten. He didn't even win the popular vote vs Hillary lol
Yet it was a landslide this time but he had to beg for votes from Ga lol ok
Shout out Mitt Romney. He kept shite real
Why is anyone mad he lost a hate monger who helped lead the siege on the Capitol like a crybaby bitch lol let's not even talk the fall man. Comey what president needs a fall guy lol then puts all that pressure on his VP.
Man they wanted his arse dead u deny that? That was an attempt at stealing the election. Everything yall been crying about. Stealing every Democrat vote out of fear for orange god lol why idk
He said in debates he wouldn't accept the results. Or wouldn't say that he would I should say.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 2/3/21 at 8:02 pm to Peter167
First off, you should slow down when typing and proof read what you’re actually trying to say.
Next....
Good thing the president isn't decided on the popular vote
If you could tell when, where and what Trump said that lead to the “siege on the Capitol”, I’ll actually listen.
What’s Comey got to do with anything?
Are you aware that there was Antifa members mixed in disguised as Trump supports that helped entice the “siege”?
I’d like to actually hear why you don’t like Trump other than talking points that the MSM. Is it because he didn’t give you free stuff like universal basic income? Free education? Free healthcare? Anything that requires more of my hard earned tax dollars to benefit from?
Were you choking on all the carbon emissions from everyday vehicular use? I know I’m not.
Was it that he separated children from their “parents” at the border? Did you know Obama did the exact same thing? In the exact same “cages”?”
Is it because he’s a racist? I guess the $250 million a year for 10 years he gave to historically black colleges wasn’t enough. Nor lowering the unemployment rate for minorities to all time lows.
Were you aware of any of that? I’m gonna assume no since you think he’s a mean “douche”. You probably don’t know one thing to like or hate about any of his policies.
“The man is a real douche and don’t talk too good. Durr-hurr. I’m gonna vote for Biden. A man that doesn’t even know where he is 90% of the time. I don’t care if he kills all the industries that will make life hell for me. As long as Trump is gone, I don’t care.”
“I know Biden said he’d give me $2000 even though he’s back tracked to $1400. I’d rather get $1400 from Biden then the $2000 Trump wanted to give me.”
Next....
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He didn't even win the popular vote vs Hillary lol
Good thing the president isn't decided on the popular vote
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lead the siege on the Capitol
If you could tell when, where and what Trump said that lead to the “siege on the Capitol”, I’ll actually listen.
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Comey what president needs a fall guy lol then puts all that pressure on his VP.
What’s Comey got to do with anything?
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Man they wanted his arse dead u deny that? That was an attempt at stealing the election. Everything yall been crying about.
Are you aware that there was Antifa members mixed in disguised as Trump supports that helped entice the “siege”?
I’d like to actually hear why you don’t like Trump other than talking points that the MSM. Is it because he didn’t give you free stuff like universal basic income? Free education? Free healthcare? Anything that requires more of my hard earned tax dollars to benefit from?
Were you choking on all the carbon emissions from everyday vehicular use? I know I’m not.
Was it that he separated children from their “parents” at the border? Did you know Obama did the exact same thing? In the exact same “cages”?”
Is it because he’s a racist? I guess the $250 million a year for 10 years he gave to historically black colleges wasn’t enough. Nor lowering the unemployment rate for minorities to all time lows.
Were you aware of any of that? I’m gonna assume no since you think he’s a mean “douche”. You probably don’t know one thing to like or hate about any of his policies.
“The man is a real douche and don’t talk too good. Durr-hurr. I’m gonna vote for Biden. A man that doesn’t even know where he is 90% of the time. I don’t care if he kills all the industries that will make life hell for me. As long as Trump is gone, I don’t care.”
“I know Biden said he’d give me $2000 even though he’s back tracked to $1400. I’d rather get $1400 from Biden then the $2000 Trump wanted to give me.”
Posted on 2/4/21 at 4:30 pm to finchmeister08
Let's agree to disagree. Moot point anyway. He lost.
Let's just be gator fans no reason for deep hatred for Democrats or Republicans. Even tho it's hard to get why any Republican would proudly defend trump anymore.
Let's just be gator fans no reason for deep hatred for Democrats or Republicans. Even tho it's hard to get why any Republican would proudly defend trump anymore.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 5:23 pm to Peter167
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it's hard to get why any Republican would proudly defend trump anymore.
- Energy independency within the US
- Lowered the amount of troops in the ME
- Removed the mandate/tax from Obamacare for people that opted out of having health insurance
- lowered the unemployment rate across the board
- lowered tax rates
that’s just a few things that’s plenty valuable to a republican voter.
However, Biden has already:
- increased troops in Syria
- killed the Keystone XL pipeline and banned fracking on federal lands
- the first two has already to caused 1000s of lost jobs and will lead to more oil dependency on the ME. Which means more troops and more wars
- wants to add the mandated tax back to Obamacare
- wants to raise taxes
Regardless of Biden, I don’t understand why anyone would vote for someone who wants to eliminate jobs and take more money from working class citizens.
Do you work Peter? Do you think you could do without an extra $50-100 subtracted from your paycheck? Would you give up that money just because you don’t like the guy that wants you to keep it?
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 6:03 pm to Peter167
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Even tho it's hard to get why any Republican would proudly defend trump anymore.
It's hard to see how anyone could support the hypocrisy of the Democrats and Biden
Posted on 2/5/21 at 7:38 am to Louisiana Gator
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It's hard to see how anyone could support the hypocrisy of the Democrats and Biden
"Orange man bad" is the only reason most can give for supporting Biden who will give them higher taxes, higher gas prices, lower stock market, higher unemployment, less security, men with wigs playing women's sports, shitty overpriced healthcare and a record number of abortions per year, but to each his own.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:44 pm to finchmeister08
His ending bro
Yall really see him in no fault for the Capitol riots. Ok
Also nobody stole the election
Yall really see him in no fault for the Capitol riots. Ok
Also nobody stole the election
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:48 pm to UFMatt
Trump wanted abortions basically illegal. We dont have enough people popping em out left and right lol
I give support to Biden because trump is a proud smug walking turd.
"I just grab em by the puss do what I want"
I give support to Biden because trump is a proud smug walking turd.
"I just grab em by the puss do what I want"
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:13 pm to Peter167
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Trump wanted abortions basically illegal.
Although this take is one I disagree with, I can respect it as an opinion.
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I give support to Biden because trump is a proud smug walking turd.
This one I can’t. The presidency shouldn’t be a popularity contest. It’s about who can provide you and the country a better way of life. If somehow paying higher gas prices and higher taxes betters your life, then so be it. I just hope you don’t work in the oil field and have to #learntocode for a new job.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:52 pm to finchmeister08
I disagree if u cant take a loss like a man u dont deserve to be the president of the United states.
First ever to not concede? When he obviously lost the popular vote by millions again and this time the electoral. Outside his fanbase minds. Still zero proof of significant or close to voter fraud. Then as Romney said. "Because of a selfish man's pride being hurt" 5 people died in the insurrection. Yall just act like thats not the absolute worst way a president has left office EVER lol
This time the electoral couldn't save em and his people lose their shite
Outside Az count the votes. Outside Michigan stop the count lol. Never were on same page other then Trump won idc frick yall lol
First ever to not concede? When he obviously lost the popular vote by millions again and this time the electoral. Outside his fanbase minds. Still zero proof of significant or close to voter fraud. Then as Romney said. "Because of a selfish man's pride being hurt" 5 people died in the insurrection. Yall just act like thats not the absolute worst way a president has left office EVER lol
This time the electoral couldn't save em and his people lose their shite
Outside Az count the votes. Outside Michigan stop the count lol. Never were on same page other then Trump won idc frick yall lol
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:11 pm to Peter167
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Yall really see him in no fault for the Capitol riots. Ok
So what about all the riots across the country that the Dems kept campaigning for? Do you fault them for the millions of dollars that they cost the US? That is actually worse than the capitol riots(that Trump never rallied for). I know that is hard to understand but multiple dems kept asking for the riots to continue. I just hope that you live in a Democratic ran state so you can reap the rewards the Dems give you
Posted on 2/8/21 at 7:34 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And remember when leftists stormed the Wisconsin capital, Nancy Pissosi called them Patriots.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 1:56 pm to UFMatt
Anyone watching this disgusting sham of a so called impeachment trial? What a disgrace to the US Senate and waste of taxpayer money for them to even have to hear this bullshite. Trump still lives rent free in the Dems heads. They are still scared to death of him even though he is out of office.
Why don't they work on something, anything for the American people? Now that the inmates have control of the prison, nothing will be done for the American people until 2022.
The idiots that voted for these clowns will reap what they have sown, unfortunately so will the rest of us.
Why don't they work on something, anything for the American people? Now that the inmates have control of the prison, nothing will be done for the American people until 2022.
The idiots that voted for these clowns will reap what they have sown, unfortunately so will the rest of us.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 2/9/21 at 2:05 pm to UFMatt
is chief justice roberts presiding? if not, it's not a constitutional hearing. but people like peter will come in here laughing at you because it doesn't matter and trump is "giant douche". apparently, that's all he cares about. not the higher gas prices and taxes that are coming. i've tried to hammer that in his head, but it's becoming apparent that he doesn't pay taxes, or not even gas for that matter, based on the responses he comes here with.
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