re: If Mac leaves- do you go full court press on Frost?

I like Frost. I'd take him over Mac right now... BUT I am very afraid of taking another guy without big boy experience. He looks great, he looks fantastic in fact but I am done with the up and comers. Bring us a proven coach that has experience at a big boy school. One that knows the ins and outs of a big program, where you have to schmooze recruits, Bull Gators, the media, etc. One that knows how to keep his players eligible and not suspended every other year. One that knows how to develop a well rounded program because they've been through the school of hard knocks. One that can meet the demands of the fanbase and not get exacerbated after every press conference.

UF is not the place to learn on the job. Frost would have to learn a lot of things in this position. That scares me. We need a SURE THING. Someone that can bring UF back to prominence. Maybe not win a title but consistent top 10. Then maybe 5 or 6 years down the line get an up and comer to take it to the next level. This program needs a home run.

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It sounds like you want Chip Kelly , Bob Stoops or Lane Kiffin.

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Out of those 3.... I guess, I'd take Lane Kiffin.
Stoops retired for a reason
Kelly while exciting, hates recruiting.
Lane would be the best fit of the 3 as far as recruiting and bringing life to this dormant offense.

Strong, Kiffin, Leach, Dantonio, Kelly, are my top picks. Petrino (yes him), Greg Schiano, Willie Taggert would be up there. I really haven't given a lot of thought but it would have to be a coach that has extensive experience for me, preferably at a big program. Taggert has had 2 HC stint's albeit smaller schools but I count that more than Frost who has only 1. I'd go with Schiano who's been out of a HC job or even, dare I say Jim Tressel, who is no longer under show cause. All these guys have been through hell and back. They are proven and would move the program forward. Can they all win titles? Probably not but we need a positive direction, where we get better as the season gets longer not worse.

I like Frost but the lack of experience is my concern. I'd have to put him top among coaches with huge upside but not enough experience. Him and a host of about 10 other coaches at 2nd tiered teams fits that bill. Frost has a year and a half experience in a questionable conference. Why take that chance? Better to get the teacher in Chip Kelly than the student. At least this time around. We cannot take any chances.

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So with the experience being a factor. Id say 1. Chip Kelly 2. Lane Kiffin

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I don't think you can go wrong with either. Think about it. Both these guys would have us winning immediately and would bring a buzz to the program as well. There is really NO CHANCE they would fail here. That's what we need. We need a no brainer. Leach and Strong would win here as well.

I'm just done with guys that don't have extensive experience. McElwain has had too many missteps and it's because he hasn't coached through hard knocks for a long time. He still doesn't understand this fan base and the demands for a high powered offense. Muschamp and Zook never really got it either. I can't blame them, that they didn't have the experience.

By big boy school do you mean power 5 team? If so then how about Fuente at VT , Gundy and call Franklin and make him be the first one to say no. Hell no to Greg Schiano . Taggert doesn't seem to be proven anymore then Frost . I would be ok with half of the guys you named.

I would go

Fuente
Kelly
Kiffin

Petrino

Strong
Leach
Taggert (could move up the list more with experience. I would prefer Frost over Taggert.)

That's considering having no chance for Franklin .

They were down a lot of scholarships while he was there. I think they were down something like 24 scholarships .he would have been much better off staying at Tennessee . I don't remember if the NCAA announced the penalties before he took the USC job or not. I think if he stayed at Tennessee they would have owned the east after Meyer left.

He took the job knowing there would be sanctions but he was told that the NCAA would go easy on USC, so he didn't think it would be so severe. Then the hammer came down and he basically couldn't recruit depth. The current players had an option where they could leave and immediately be eligible at other schools. I think he lost like 20 guys before he got started. They still did well his first year. The next year, they were even more depleted and he went 10-2 which is a miracle if you look at it. The very next year the sanctions caught up to him. He was trying to plug holes but it got out of hand (kinda similar to McElwain).

You have to remember that Kiffin had a clause in his UT contract that said he could leave UT if USC came calling. That was his dream job and he took it when it became open. I'm sure if he knew the shoe was about to drop that he would have never left UT. I really don't see us having an issue with him leaving to go somewhere else. What other dream job comes up after UF?

Frankin isnt leavin Penn imo. Neither is Taggert from Oregon.

Isnt he from PA?

3 out of the last 4 coaches here had very little coaching experience and it has been a disaster. Why would you take a chance at UF now with Frost? Can't do it...