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re: Auburn Breakdown. (Since this week vs. Towson should be boring.)

Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:49 pm to
Nix is a true freshman QB shooting about 53% of his passes.

Trask is hitting 71.7% of his passes.

Trask's QBR is 82.1

Nix' QBR is 64.4. This rating takes into account an opponent's rating and the like.

Trask is a monumentally better QB than Nix.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:53 pm to
We have the better passer.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:59 pm to
Total QBR includes rushing as well. Malcom Perry, ranked top ten in the country obviously doesn't pass very well but has a QBR 88.8.

Kyle Trask's QBR is actually #11 at 82.1 one slot higher than Trevor Lawrence at 81.7 and two slots behind Jake Fromm at 86.3.

Trask is legitimately a very good Quarterback. He may struggle going forward, but it's a lot more due to the pieces around him.

You guys will see what I've been seeing soon enough.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:02 pm to
He cuts the turnovers down and Im good. Cant put the ball on the turf against these next opponents coming up after Sat.
If we can keep him clean, we'll be fine. We wont face a good defense until UGA imo.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 8:10 pm
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:30 pm to
This game is really simple - stop Auburn's run.

If you do that, you win. This team isn't beating Florida on the arm of Bo Nix.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:30 pm to
Strip sack from behind was the only real bad turnover like I said. He wasn't taking chances with the ball until later on in the game when we kind of knew we had them beat.

Really, every QB has turnovers -- it's half the timing and half the reason. Taking shots downfield when we're up is good for a guy who doesn't have a bunch of snaps. I think what I'm most concerned with at this time is having a creative rush offense.

Hopefully during the Auburn game we start to open up some more option looks and get our playmakers the balls. We can always turn into a throw-first offense, but one dimensional offenses generally don't win championships.
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 9:45 pm to
After all the shite you posted about Franks...I didn't realize there were good turnovers. Now you are saying that every QB has turnovers? Gee that fits your narrative.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:01 pm to
Context matters.

A pass into triple coverage when you're leading by one possession in the 4th Quarter on your side of the field is not the same as throwing into double coverage on third and long when you have a fairly comfortable lead.

They're not "good", but it's clear that Mullen was trying to get as many downfield passes as physically possible in order to get Trask ready to make those passes going forward.

They're forgivable when the damage they do is minimal. The one that was egregious was his fumble because he had to have known that he was about to be sacked. He can't just stand in the pocket for that long and expect someone to not come and hit him from behind.

That being said, telling him to run is a lot easier than telling a guy in his third year starting not to throw off of his back foot across his body to the middle of the field late on the first drive.

Or how to properly run a mesh play inside the red zone and fumble it.

All turnovers are pretty bad, but some are objectively worse than others.

It's all in the way you do it.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:11 pm to
You guys also have to look at the schedules aubbie by the time we have played them will have played Oregon, aTm,and moo state.

Not one team we have played could beat either one of those teams and Tulane would probably be at the very least 3 - 1 with our schedule so far. so not that I'm saying aubbie is going trounce us but let's be real that team is already battle tested we are still marching to the battle.

And throwing out stats nix has a 53% completion who has started and played very good competition so far compared to trask who has completed 72% of his passes in 1 true start( against the worst Tennessee team in 50 years)a quarter and a half at Kentucky and some back up play against the sisters for the ohms of the poor.

Nix is young and there are some things he has trouble with but the guy has started played and beat some good teams Sorry to say this but our QB as of today and until next Saturday has not played or beat any team that could come close to beating aubbie.

Come next Saturday by let's say 7PM we should all have a much better feel for the Season by then.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:59 pm to
Trask's Total QBR is adjusted to competition, so that's a moot point.

He also played one quarter vs. Kentucky. Franks averaged 58 yards a Quarter, Trask averaged 126. Similarly, Trask was throwing at a defense that knew he was going to throw (referred to as "passing downs" for most metrics used to quantify how good a passer is).

Who knows what the offense would have looked like had Trask started the games before.

All we know at this moment is that Trask broke Franks' single game passing record in three quarters vs. Tennessee (since he shared snaps with Emory all game and Emory closed the game).

The four "full" quarters he's played he's averaged 104.75 passing yards. He's done this with a very broken run game, so he's actually throwing at a disadvantage (this is likely why ESPN's Total QBR rates him so highly).

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Bo Nix hasn't thrown even remotely close to Trask's high on the year (293, with two drops mind you). Nix's high was 207 against Tulane and only hit 51.4% of his passes.

After Tulane, he has failed to hit 200 passing yards in every single one of his games, including Kent State. Trask beats him in Total QBR and QB Rating comfortably.

quote:

Sorry to say this but our QB as of today and until next Saturday has not played or beat any team that could come close to beating aubbie.


And we absolutely dominated Tennessee, came back against Kentucky after our QB "as of that day" went down losing 21 - 10.

Trask is 53 - 3 in SEC play since he's been and if Kellen Mond can throw for 300 yards against Auburn (lmfao) I'm pretty sure Mullen and crew will be able to.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12743 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 5:16 am to
Trask has not been tested yet . Let’s see how good Trask is after playing some good teams .

So your saying Trask will clearly be the better QB on the field when we play Auburn? I would offer a ban bet on this but I have done it in the past and you were scared to take it .
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 8:32 am to
Yea Trask I want to see how he does under a lot of pressure. He is amazing with a clean pocket, but I want to see what he does when the pocket is breaking down in 3-4 seconds.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54005 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:22 am to
UF-Auburn will be like UF-Ole Miss in 2015.

UF will come out pissed.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54005 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Auburn has the more talented QB with a little more experience.


Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12743 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:07 am to
I don’t see why it’s funny . Almost every coach in college football agrees with me that Nix is more talented.

You Straws must not care about recruiting rankings . You could argue that Trask is a better QB right now but not that he is more talented.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54005 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:37 am to
Nix as a passer in Gus' offense is NOT more talented than Trask right now.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:49 am to
Yea Nix has a higher ceiling for sure but right now he is not a great QB by any means.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I don’t see why it’s funny


Trask is #11 in Total QBR (Jake Fromm is #9).

Bo Nix is #51 in Total QBR.

Total QBR accounts for: Rushing yards and Strength of Opponent.

Trask's Quarterbacking skills are miles ahead of where Bo Nix is right now and it's not even remotely close -- that's why you sound so stupid.

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I want to see Trask tested. - Various Gator posters.


If coming ice cold off of the bench down 11 points in the 4th quarter on the road and winning isn't a test, I'm not sure what will.

Don't you guys find it odd that against Trask they don't seem to come after the Quarterback? I'll tell you why:

He hits open receivers, and if you blitz him he will make you pay. Trask is a good QB, and he will be good against stiff competition, too.

We just need our receivers to make sure that they really, really give it their all and fight for the 50/50 balls that are likely coming.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
961 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:12 pm to
AU is dead last in passing yds in the SEC. Im more worried about their run game which is #1 in the SEC.

Agree Nix will be a very good QB in a year or two...but not now. He will be a Fromm type QB...not flashy but handle the offense.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:30 pm to
We're averaging 2.9 yards a rush on the year and Kellen Mond threw for 333 yards against Auburn's defense.

We are tailor-made to beat Auburn.
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