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re: 2022 Recruiting and beyond. (Updated: 20/JUN/2021)
Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Most of his yards came on a busted coverage.
Seriously... you think uga lost yo LSU because of cager?
Seriously... you think uga lost yo LSU because of cager?
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:40 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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No there is a huge difference.
It is an exponential curve on All Americans and draft picks per individual.
If you don't understand that there is a difference between the top 50 players and top 350 players then I don't know what to tell you.
I could devolve into personal insults but that would not be productive. It is just Straws being Straws
I mean you've put words in my mouth twice and didn't even bother to correct your assumptions.
Weren't you one of the guys telling me to write an email to Dan Mullen about Kyle Trask? Que sera, sera.
In the end, you don't seem particularly keen on understanding me and when you clearly didn't understand you've reverted to just making a point against something no one is arguing.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:43 pm to slayerxing
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Most of his yards came on a busted coverage.
Yeah, most of Trask's passes came against soft zone, it's weird how good players seem to always find the open area of the field. Really strange.
Someone should look into it.
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Seriously... you think uga lost yo LSU because of cager?
No, but that has nothing to do with what we're arguing. We're arguing recruiting and depth, and in spite of being a recruiting ace Kirby had no response for when Cager went down, which is why he lost to South Carolina.
I'm arguing coaching development and roster management are just as important as getting the correct pieces through recruiting.
I have no idea what points you're arguing.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 7:56 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
There is a big difference between soft zone and a busted coverage. wtf
I have never said coaching or roster development isn't very important.
But almost everyone would say talent is the most important thing in football. TO A POINT. Obviouslly if you SUCK at development or roster management, talent alone won't save you. But if you are even mediocre at both, see Kirby, you can win the east non stop.
I have never said coaching or roster development isn't very important.
But almost everyone would say talent is the most important thing in football. TO A POINT. Obviouslly if you SUCK at development or roster management, talent alone won't save you. But if you are even mediocre at both, see Kirby, you can win the east non stop.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 9:44 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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No there is a huge difference.
It is an exponential curve on All Americans and draft picks per individual.
If you don't understand that there is a difference between the top 50 players and top 350 players then I don't know what to tell you.
I could devolve into personal insults but that would not be productive. It is just Straws being Straws
I mean you've put words in my mouth twice and didn't even bother to correct your assumptions.
Weren't you one of the guys telling me to write an email to Dan Mullen about Kyle Trask? Que sera, sera.
In the end, you don't seem particularly keen on understanding me and when you clearly didn't understand you've reverted to just making a point against something no one is arguing.
It is a fricking stupid phrase used by idiots who lump things in and oversimplify metrics. Thinking introspectively, it is a phrase that upsets me to see people use. Normally I completely discount what they say because they are complete recruiting figs like some posters on 247 and ESPN broadcasts.
You were absolutely right about Trask starting over Franks. It is still troublesome that Mullen did not see that.
I am arguing against that phrase.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 1:57 pm to slayerxing
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There is a big difference between soft zone and a busted coverage. wtf
The point is that good players seem to always find those weak points in the defense. Everyone said that the only reason Trask was successful is because the defenses that he played were simply not challenging him.
Similarly, now, you're saying Cager just operated under busted coverages. I'm saying maybe he almost always obtained it.
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But almost everyone would say talent is the most important thing in football. TO A POINT. Obviouslly if you SUCK at development or roster management, talent alone won't save you. But if you are even mediocre at both, see Kirby, you can win the east non stop.
To pull this back: The hand wringing going on about recruiting is what started this. I think Kirby's days are numbered and I also predicted several years that he would flop sooner than later. Seeing who he replaces Fromm with will be important, and seeing Beck's season completely implode makes me wonder how long he can sustain his job and recruiting.
Recruiting is important, but wanting top 5 classes and anything outside of that is a failure is what I'm trying to argue against.
Posted on 12/24/19 at 1:59 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
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I am arguing against that phrase.
Blue Chip Players.
Elite QB.
Elite DL.
Superior Development.
I mean that's all I'm arguing, and having as many top 350 players as possible is extremely important. I just don't think we need top 100 players as long as Dan Mullen is our coach.
I've seent it with my own eyes that he can get more with less.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 12:10 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Just to be clear, I don't think recruiting is a failure. I like the class, the blue chip ratio will put UF in the discussion for national title talk, etc.
They can do better though, and will I think if they can just get back to Atlanta and beat Georgia.
Merry christmas all
They can do better though, and will I think if they can just get back to Atlanta and beat Georgia.
Merry christmas all
Posted on 12/26/19 at 3:22 pm to slayerxing
We can always do better, of course, but the hand wringing every NSD is getting out of control. I also don't look forward to the off-season again.
Just to clarify, too: I don't think you actually support the white knuckling, just that I've been very frustrated because it always seems to work out for us but we always seem upset by the end of the year.
Merry Christmas.
Just to clarify, too: I don't think you actually support the white knuckling, just that I've been very frustrated because it always seems to work out for us but we always seem upset by the end of the year.
Merry Christmas.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:25 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Nick Buchanan on early enrollee's Josh Braun and Richie Leonard—
"Well, Josh and Richie are like humongous. Like those are some of the biggest—I thought Ethan was big last year. Those are some pretty big guys. They're going to be people movers here real soon."
"Well, Josh and Richie are like humongous. Like those are some of the biggest—I thought Ethan was big last year. Those are some pretty big guys. They're going to be people movers here real soon."
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:29 pm to dbuchanon
NM
Posted on 12/31/19 at 12:11 am to Go Go Gata
uf cbs rolling in for henderson.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 4:38 pm to SailorGator
Grimes is returning for next season
Posted on 1/1/20 at 5:09 pm to dbuchanon
Posted on 1/1/20 at 5:18 pm to dbuchanon
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Grimes is returning for next season
HUGE news. A lot of people were complaining about recruiting at WR.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Good. Henderson is a huge get if we land him. If we land a top tier RB, Henderson, and Shorter as a transfer this class goes from very good to great. If you add in Cox as well I'd call it elite. Would be two five stars, six top 100 players, over 20 four stars.
Hope it happens. Would close out the year very happily
Hope it happens. Would close out the year very happily
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:22 pm to SailorGator
Henderson would be such a huge pick up for this staff. At a position of need that he can impact immediately, and it is big for national perception, beating Clemson head to head for a top recruit.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:23 pm to dbuchanon
Grimes returning is more important than Toney or Marco, IMO. His combination of size and speed is unique. He needs to continue working on his hands and route running, but he could be an all-sec type player next year given the WR depth chart.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:40 pm to slayerxing
Agreed. Though Marco is big too. Our corner position is certainly not the elite status we are used to right now. Need as many peeps as possible there.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:16 am to Gatorbait2008
Lorenzo Lingard, a former 5 star running back, is transferring to the Gators
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