re: **2017 Football Recruiting Thread**

Meyer is both.

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It's likely that Florida's 2016 class was hurt by the fact that, after beating Georgia, the 2015 team removed its rubber mask Scooby Doo villain-style and revealed itself to be mostly another Muschamp team in November and on. There's only so much fixing that can be done in one year, after all. Once attrition began to set in, the all-around thinness showed and the team's quality sank.

Even so, the second recruiting class is supposed to be where a great recruiter begins to shine. It's not done on short notice like a transitional class. Real relationships form, and better evaluations happen. Further, it's still early enough in a coach's tenure to spin on-field struggles with a, "that's why we need you" pitch.

McElwain simply was not able to get highly rated recruits to sign with Florida like Urban Meyer, and, for a while, Muschamp were able to do. His blue chip rate is not up to par with those of Florida State, Georgia, and LSU either. It's one thing to have an iffy transitional class; every coach gets a pass for that. It's another to follow it up with a second class with fewer than 40% of the players getting a premium grade.

You should take this with a Muschamp-sized asterisk, but in the time since the Gators switched to a conventional scheme like the others have in 2011, they've gone 0-3, 2-1, 0-3, 1-2, and 1-2 against FSU, UGA, and LSU. It's going to be difficult to do much better than that when UF is at a deficit of top end talent.

I haven't even mentioned division rival Tennessee, which has been recruiting at a high level under Butch Jones. Despite only getting four blue chips in his transitional 2013 class, Jones has signed 46 blue chip recruits over the past four years. That's more than Florida's 38. And despite needing to sign every warm body he could in 2014 and 2015 to restock a depleted roster, his blue chip percentage was greater than 50% in both of those years. His four-year percentage is 42.6%, which is higher than UF's 38.8% despite UT only have a 16.0% rate in '13.

I also haven't mentioned Miami (FL), which was not recruiting at an elite level under Al Golden. The Hurricanes replaced him with Mark Richt, who signed three of those Georgia classes listed above and set the table for the fourth. Despite 2016's class being a transitional one for him at UM, Richt nabbed ten blue chips (one more than Florida did) and had a blue chip percentage of 55.6%. Florida and Miami may not play each other annually, but having a great recruiter in Coral Gables makes the job of recruiting tougher for the Gators. UF signed just four top-50 Composite recruits from the state of Florida in 2016; all ten of Miami's were in-state, while FSU got eight.

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The Florida Gators are in an unusual position for a college football program in 2016. They're a team that runs a fairly conventional scheme by today's standards, and every year they play three other teams with fairly conventional schemes that happen to be elite recruiters: Florida State, Georgia, and LSU. And if UF should win its division, it's more likely than not these days to face another elite recruiter with a fairly conventional scheme in Alabama.

When teams that try to do roughly the same thing meet up in a game, the team with better players wins more often than not. Coaching ability can overcome that to a degree, but having better players will generally win out

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roadGator

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Call me what you will. However, I'm right

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Road you cant be right when Im right...am I right?

Straw my man...at it again with the Muschamp bashing. If you wanna know WHO got the short end of the stick taking over a program...look no further than what Muschamp "inherited". You wanna talk about RB issues? In 2011 his first year we had two freaking 175 RBs...Demps and Rainey, great speed but couldnt move piles of tacklers or escape when hit usually. Brantley was hurt early in the Bama game...enter not ready for prime time true frosh Driskel who also got hurt. Boom had to clean up the damn locker room from Meyers mess and we were weak on defense. The very next year we went 11-1 and before the L to UGA we were # 2 in the BCS standings...but everyone forgets that. LOOK at 2012 videos of Driskel beating A&M on the road and ditto UT....he was lights out...but after the UGA game he was never the same and "fans" blamed him for the turnovers...all six of them...trust me...he had help.
2014 could have turned out differently....board handed blocking TE had pass in his mitts in the end zone and dropped it....a TD then with less than 2 minutes and we would have won. Against the girls school...leading them 9-0 with 3 FGs and knocking on their door inside their 15 yd line...Driskel throws pass near the goal line to same fricking TE who lets it ricochet off those plywood hands and the girls school picks it off and takes it back the other way...firing them up big time at home.

I could go on and on...but Straw you say potato and I say pot...j/k I dont ever drink that stuff.

And he is not coming back.

To finish 13th in rushing in the SEC and win the east is a feat beyond comprehension....that kinda stat usually in indicative of a 4-8 team.

Ask McElwain and he will you that Muschamps defense was the reason we were able to win or at least make a good showing until the bowl game when no one showed up and defense had their fill of ineptness on the other side of the ball.

McElwain has shown he can develop players on offense. I too am concerned about defensive recruiting, but our HC is a smart person and knows what is needed...getting Mark Campbell was awesome...we needed a big RB and he will show his determination soon on the field.

Watching spring game it is obvious that we will see teams get a steady diet of quick passes, wheel routes and screens to loosen them up and watch us break some big runs.

Cronkrite will be the starter by midseason imo. I think he's our best back.

On defense, the only position that worries me is DT. I think we are fricked after this year there. People are freaking out about DBs, but they can play early easily.

6-0 345lb 3* DT Jordan Scott is a gator.

Nice fricking highlights too I love this pick up

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First team all state

29 tfl's 10 sacks

Early enrollee

A lot to like about this kid even if he is only rated an 84 by 247