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Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:38 pm to UpstateCock2007
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:38 pm to UpstateCock2007
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Any word on the DL coach? I have seen both Lawing and Tracy Rocker being mentioned? Also, what capacity, if any, would we hire Ellis Johnson for?
Man ... there are so many rumors flying around about both the DLine coach and LB coach. Who knows. Would love to see Brad back on the DLine, not so much with EJ. He burned his bridges with us IMHO. EJ is being talked about as the LB coach but it would be a mistake IMHO. He is not loyal to us in any shape, form or fashion. He's mercenary and not very good at it IMHO. He does not work well with others ... and he is a fricking prick to be honest with everyone IMHO.
Rocker might be a really great hire is we can get him. If not, there are others we're courting.
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 7:57 pm to Rescue22
Muschamp was not my first choice, as I was hoping for either Herman or Smart, but I certainly don't think Muschamp will be nearly the disaster many are saying. I was actually really disappointed we didn't get him as DC and just go ahead and make him HCIW last year. I thought that was the best solution to combat the "2 or 3 years" comment that sabotaged our recruiting last year.
He's our coach now, and I'm excited for a new era. Hopefully, the fans will get behind Muschamp and give him a chance. If you really look at his Florida days, it all comes down to the fact they never found a quarterback. It's really that simple. Look at Florida this year. When they had Grier at qb they were really good, soon as he got suspended, they turned right back into Florida of the last 5 years. Worst case Muschamp will bust his arse on the recruiting trail and bring in some quality players.
I'm just happy to know that we have a coach with a lot of passion and energy, a coach that will put in the long hours, and a coach that will have an actual recruiting game plan. If he does that, and surrounds himself with good coaches, he will be a very good hire.
He's our coach now, and I'm excited for a new era. Hopefully, the fans will get behind Muschamp and give him a chance. If you really look at his Florida days, it all comes down to the fact they never found a quarterback. It's really that simple. Look at Florida this year. When they had Grier at qb they were really good, soon as he got suspended, they turned right back into Florida of the last 5 years. Worst case Muschamp will bust his arse on the recruiting trail and bring in some quality players.
I'm just happy to know that we have a coach with a lot of passion and energy, a coach that will put in the long hours, and a coach that will have an actual recruiting game plan. If he does that, and surrounds himself with good coaches, he will be a very good hire.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:16 pm to JimMorrison
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What will we be paying Travaris Robinson? I'm guessing around $1 mil.
Less than $1M. The $1M+ guys are the long running best DC's in college football. TRob is coming, but he's going to run Muschamp's defense, Champ will call the shots, HOWEVER TRob is going to be learning on the job from Muschamp. He may be a $1M as time goes by, but we'll probably bring him in for $500-$750K.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:18 pm to CocknDawg
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3. Now Rich Rod, Ray's third choice, jumped the gun and said he was staying in the desert when no offer had been made. This is confusing.
RichRod was NEVER the 3rd choice, he just got an interview as a nod to Sexton. He was never offered the job.
We wanted Herman, then Smart, but we got Muschamp, that is accurate.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:29 pm to UpstateCock2007
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Any word on the DL coach? I have seen both Lawing and Tracy Rocker being mentioned?
This is accurate. Lawing is a awesome recruiter, and an even better scout and developer of talent. Rocker is solid recruiter as well. Those guys are in our top2 for DL coach. IMO, if Lawing wants it, he'll be #1, IMO.
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Also, what capacity, if any, would we hire Ellis Johnson for?
Ellis is dependent on what Lance Thompson says, I believe, If Lance wants it, Ellis is out, if Lance doesn't, Ellis will be considered, IMO.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:36 pm to CockInYourEar
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We wanted Herman,
Herman didn't want any part of the SEC, IMO. He has an easy gig at Houston, and wants the Texas job when they dump Charlie Strong. Why risk a job in the SEC? It's a meat grinder, difficult to compete for recruits, no gimmes on the schedule except for OOC, and even then there's pressure to schedule good teams to build the resume. It's the toughest conference there is, and if he took a job and didn't do extremely well, the shine would be off him as a candidate for his dream job.
I get it. He's pragmatic.
Muschamp obviously wasn't your first or second choice, but hopefully he's learned some lessons and won't repeat his mistakes. He's a really good defensive coach. Best of luck to you. Our games in the next few years may not see more than 17 points scored total.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:37 pm to CockInYourEar
https://gridironnow.com/answering-questions-about-south-carolinas-coaching-search/
Decent piece. Not as detailed, but decent and definitely spot-on about the PR blunders.
Decent piece. Not as detailed, but decent and definitely spot-on about the PR blunders.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:20 pm to scrooster
Is it a done deal with Roper, or can we go with some other options? I looked at some of his past offenses and I wasn't very impressed.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:21 pm to CockInYourEar
Roper is a mistake.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:29 pm to CNB
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Roper is a mistake.
I looked more into his stats, here's what I found out:
2014 - Florida - OC
Total Offense - 93rd
Scoring Offense - 53rd
Rushing Offense - 41st
Passing Offense - 104th
Pass Eff Offense - 92nd
Turnover Lost - 30th
3rd Down Eff - 95th
2013 - Duke - OC
Total Offense - 47th
Scoring Offense - 41st
Rushing Offense - 54th
Passing Offense - 50th
Pass Eff Offense - 47th
Turnover Lost - 67th
3rd Down Eff - 46th
2012 - Duke - OC
Total Offense - 55th
Scoring Offense - 44th
Rushing Offense - 98th
Passing Offense - 31st
Pass Eff Offense - 67th
Turnover Lost - 52nd
3rd Down Eff - 98th
2011 - Duke - OC
Total Offense - 79th
Scoring Offense - 93rd
Rushing Offense - 115th
Passing Offense - 28th
Pass Eff Offense - 77th
Turnover Lost - 49th
3rd Down Conv - 76th
2010 - Duke - OC
Total Offense - 59th
Scoring Offense - 77th
Rushing Offense - 104th
Passing Offense - 22nd
Pass Eff Offense - 90th
Turnovers Lost - 102nd
3rd Down Conv - 60th
2009 - Duke - OC
Total Offense - 69th
Scoring Offense - 74th
Rushing Offense - 120th
Passing Offense - 9th
Pass Eff Offense - 42nd
Turnovers Lost - 20th
3rd Down Conv - 78th
2008 - Duke OC
Total Offense - 102nd
Scoring Offense - 74th
Rushing Offense - 103rd
Passing Offense - 75th
Pass Eff Offense - 82nd
Turnovers Lost - 46th
3rd Down Conv - 85th
2007 - Tenn RB Coach
Rushing Offense - 73rd
Fumbles Lost - 10th
2006 - Tenn RB Coach
Rushing Offense - 96th
Fumbles Lost - 30h
2005 - Kent QB Coach
Passing Offense - 101st
Pass Eff Offense - 86th
INT's Thrown - 23rd
2004 - Ole Miss QB/OC Passing Game
Passing Offense - 76th
Pass Eff Offense - 107th
INT's - 66th
2003 - Ole Miss QB/OC - Passing Game
Passing Offense - 15th
Pass Eff Offense - 10th
INT's - 28th
2002 - Ole Miss QB/OC Passing Game
Passing Offense - 23rd
Pass Eff Offense - 51st
INT's - 75th
2001 - Ole Miss QB
Passing Offense - 23rd
Pass Eff Offense - 14th
INT's - 18th
2000 - Ole Miss QB
Passing Offense - 68th
Pass Eff Offense - 52nd
INT's - 67th
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:44 pm to CockInYourEar
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Is it a done deal with Roper, or can we go with some other options?
Reported as done deal
Posted on 12/6/15 at 10:48 pm to Cockopotamus
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Reported as done deal
Then that's disheartening. I know McIlwain likes him a lot. He also made Eli a great QB, and Thad Lewis. However, he has more bad years than good years and then a lot of meh years. He did really well the beginning of his year at UF, but then they got hit with a pandemic of injuries and were playing walk-ons at OL.
Isn't there anyone in the Mike Leach coaching tree we could go after? I know OU will match whatever offer we give Lincoln Riley. What about Elf at Texas Tech? Can we also not get Major Applewhite? I just think that we need to look at some other options first.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:39 pm to CockInYourEar
Applewhite allegedly wasn't interested.
And I'm not sure why you'd want someone from the Mike Leach coaching tree. Nothing screams disaster louder than air raid in the SEC imo
And I'm not sure why you'd want someone from the Mike Leach coaching tree. Nothing screams disaster louder than air raid in the SEC imo
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:55 pm to Cockopotamus
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And I'm not sure why you'd want someone from the Mike Leach coaching tree.
Lincoln Riley is from that tree, he had over 3500 yds passing and 3000 yards rushing this season. If we could get that kind of balance and volume, and a traditional Boom defense, we'd have a shot at the playoffs.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:08 am to CockInYourEar
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Lincoln Riley is from that tree, he had over 3500 yds passing and 3000 yards rushing this season. If we could get that kind of balance and volume, and a traditional Boom defense, we'd have a shot at the playoffs.
Certainly not knocking the guy as he's clearly a good OC, but he's putting those numbers up in the Big12 where Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma St., Texas Tech, etc. are putting up video game numbers regularly. Might just say something about the league. I am very interested to see how he does against Clemson. Hopefully, he will win me over and put up about 50 on Clemson.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:10 am to CockInYourEar
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Lincoln Riley is from that tree, he had over 3500 yds passing and 3000 yards rushing this season. If we could get that kind of balance and volume, and a traditional Boom defense, we'd have a shot at the playoffs.
Hes also in the Big 12ish.... Where Mike Leach was able to develop the air raid.
I mean the best defense in that conference is Texas? And they were able to beat both Oklahoma and Baylor.
No thanks I'll pass on that type of offense
Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:44 am to Cockopotamus
Shawn Elliott will be retained, per 247. As long as he doesn't get the ECU job, or some other HC job down the road. That's big news, that may get 4* OL John Simpson back in play for us. It will certainly help with the transition as there will be a guy on the staff that the current players are familiar with and can rally with right now while the other coaches are incoming.
Side note: Elliott is the only current coach expected to be retained, per 247. I was hoping GA Mangus would be retained, but it doesn't look likely. Roper has an excellent relationships with McIlwain and his mom is saying as much on social media.
Side note: Elliott is the only current coach expected to be retained, per 247. I was hoping GA Mangus would be retained, but it doesn't look likely. Roper has an excellent relationships with McIlwain and his mom is saying as much on social media.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:12 am to CockInYourEar
Good. The state is pulling some source out of their arse who says junior will stay
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:20 am to CockInYourEar
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Shawn Elliott will be retained, per 247. As long as he doesn't get the ECU job, or some other HC job down the road. That's big news, that may get 4* OL John Simpson back in play for us. It will certainly help with the transition as there will be a guy on the staff that the current players are familiar with and can rally with right now while the other coaches are incoming.
Don't know how I feel about Elliott. I'm happy for him that he gets to stay home, but I feel like his OLs have been meh.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:28 am to GetCocky11
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I feel like his OLs have been meh.
His OLs were pretty good when we had an SEC-level S&C program. We haven't had one since Fitz left.
Elliott is highly respected by coaches in-state. I think it's important to have him on this staff- unless of course he gets that ECU job.
As for Roper, I'm very leery. I liked Mangus in that role, but understand why the need for change. As stated, Roper never had QB talent in his one year at UF- I'm a better quarterback than Treon Harris. Nunez, Mitch, and hopefully McIlwain are all steps up.
So far, I like what mUSChamp has done with his staff. I hope he understands the importance of locking down the state.
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