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re: State of Gamecock Recruiting for 2019
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:08 am to mikeboss550
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:08 am to mikeboss550
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Im not buying the crouch shite..i dunno maybe xt last year made me cautious but i refuse.
Yeah...I have to agree with you on that. That whole XT deal sucked arse, plain and simple. Kid played us like a fiddle and we bought every bullshite word he sold us.
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wiltfong cb Pickens to SC
This guy I feel somewhat confident about. Maybe bc his mama is a Gamecock and is "encouraging" him to come here...but I have a feeling mama will win this and he'll be one of us before all is said and done.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:12 am to Carolina_Girl
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This guy I feel somewhat confident about
Think he's been leaning our way for a while but is, justifiably, doing his due diligence.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:16 am to GameCocky88
South Carolina leads for 3 of the top 11 Defensive Ends in the Country.
2. Zacch Pickens- 5 Star(62% CB)
T L Hanna (Anderson, SC)
3. Savion Jackson- 4 Star(100% CB)
Clayton (Clayton, NC)
11. Joseph Anderson- 4 Star(64% CB)
Siegel (Murfreesboro, TN)
2. Zacch Pickens- 5 Star(62% CB)
T L Hanna (Anderson, SC)
3. Savion Jackson- 4 Star(100% CB)
Clayton (Clayton, NC)
11. Joseph Anderson- 4 Star(64% CB)
Siegel (Murfreesboro, TN)
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:13 pm to mikeboss550
If we are being objective, I believe Savion only has 1 CB and JC admitted that he put it in, and I'm paraphrasing here, because we stand as good a chance to land him as anyone else and there were no other prognosticators willing to pull the trigger at this time.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:45 pm to GameCocky88
Oh im aware on Jackson but its believed by maby "experts" its a sc v ncst battle
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:53 pm to mikeboss550
Hilinski new rating .9304 now with a higher bump to come once rivals and 247 re evaluate. We got us a good one coming in regardless of where his rating is.
7th best QB and 179 Overall in comp for now
7th best QB and 179 Overall in comp for now
Posted on 4/23/18 at 6:47 pm to mikeboss550
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wiltfong cb Pickens to SC
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 7:48 pm to Bluefin
Pickens elects to play UA AA game over US Army AA
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:34 pm to mikeboss550
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Hilinski new rating .9304 now with a higher bump to come once rivals and 247 re evaluate. We got us a good one coming in regardless of where his rating is.
7th best QB and 179 Overall in comp for now
ESPN rated him today as their #1 pro-style QB....
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:15 am to ConwayGamecock
Per the podcast we are in really good position with 4*
LINK
Hes ranked as a wr but we're recruiting as a te
LINK
Hes ranked as a wr but we're recruiting as a te
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:42 am to GameCocky88
Just got another CB for 4* DE's Curtis Fann and Joseph Anderson
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:45 am to GameCocky88
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This weekend will be another major 2019 South Carolina recruiting opportunity. Among the confirmed guests is an offensive lineman from Virginia.
Three-star guard Jakai Moore, a 6-foot-6, 295-pound Class of 2019 prospect from Patriot High School in Nokesville, Va., is scheduled to be on campus as an official visitor.
There are reports that 2019 5-star athlete Quavaris Crouch (Charlotte, N.C.) will visit South Carolina this weekend, though SEC Country has yet to confirm those plans.
SEC Country first reported the visit plans for 2019 4-star wide receiver Traevon Kenion (Monroe, N.C.). He’ll be back on campus this weekend as an unofficial visitor. The tight end target was invited to attend the Gamecocks’ cookout last weekend, but didn’t attend because of his prom.
Four-star linebacker Tyron Hopper (Roswell, Ga.) is also expected to be in town as an unofficial visitor.
Like Kenion, 2019 3-star linebacker Derek Boykins (Concord, N.C.) did not visit South Carolina last weekend. Boykins was invited and wanted to attend the cookout, but had to work.
The final weekend in April is certainly an important one for South Carolina. However, it may not quite compare to the first weekend in June when the Gamecocks will host several official visitors:
4-star CB Chris Steele (Bellflower, Calif.)
4-star DE Savion Jackson (Clayton, N.C.)
4-star DE Joseph Anderson (Murfreesboro, Tenn.)
4-star ATH Jammie Robinson (Cordele, Ga.)
According to the 247Sports rankings, several of the top six junior college prospects are also set to visit that weekend:
4-star LB Lakia Henry (Dodge City C.C.)
4-star CB Elijah Blades (Arizona Western College)
4-star OT Anthony Whigan (Lackawanna C.C.)
LINK
June gonna be huge
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:48 am to mikeboss550
I'm putting in my CB that not only with Joseph Anderson commit to the Gamecocks... it happens on the aforementioned trip. Apparently the only thing holding him back thus far was his fam hasn't been able to make a trip down. That should happen this time around.
Also that JUCO OT and Warren McClendon are our top OL targets left on the board.
Also that JUCO OT and Warren McClendon are our top OL targets left on the board.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:07 pm to GameCocky88
To reiterate something that rooster said early in this cycle, Keith allsep wrote a post today about how highly this staff thinks of devontae Davis. with all of the blue chips that we are in on at that position, its easy to forget the guys we got. Keith went as far as to say his source believes muschamp is higher on him than anyone on our board both committed and non.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:22 pm to GameCocky88
While davis is a stud ill take Zacch or Savion over him anyday.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:08 pm to mikeboss550
It seems we are officially on #SpursUp watch. Most "insiders" believe it is Traevon Kenion, 4* WR from Concord, NC.
Have to wait and see if they're right. It's like being a 4 yr old waiting on Santa to come.
Have to wait and see if they're right. It's like being a 4 yr old waiting on Santa to come.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:01 pm to GameCocky88
Couple of recruiting related notes fwiw.
The DLineman I mentioned a couple of months that would be gone this Spring is gone in Aaron Thompson. Was surprised he actually made it this long. Antoine Wilder (DB) I guess should have been expected. Remember, Thompson was highly rated ... he just turned out to be a lazy kid.
What that means is that we're a couple of steps closer to dropping dead weight or non-contributors and making room for our first full class of 25 since Boom's arrival. This is pertinent because Boom has had to take a couple of consolation signees in his past few classes. This class, that will not be the case as everyone in this next class, a full class, will be coveted athletes in the eyes of the staff and support personnel grading on their metrics.
It's a fascinating process these days. Very scientific and unlike anything we've employed prior where the computer guys, the braniacs and evaluators, actually have a big say so when Boom calls them in.
With that said we had our monthly breakfast this morning. This is our group of insider guys who proctors the yearly recruiting pool we all play. It's never been something we just throw darts at, although the squares you choose are all luck-based, the actual parameters of the pool are well calculated in advance and the guy that has been running it since 2002 (he runs similar pools all over everywhere) has gotten it down to a science with the median of our pool being +/- 2 spots each of the past five years.
With that said our pools under Boom have moved from 5x5 at 11-35 in 2016 and 2017 to 3x3 at 15-23 (at a higher $ buy-in) in 2018.
This morning it was announced a $1k buy per 4x4 square at 6-17 which would not only mean our biggest payout ever but it also shifts the median way up to 11-12 ... that would be a massive median jump which trends-up from past high medians of 22.5 (U-25 2016) (O-21 2017) and 18.5 (U-19 2018).
* denotes O/U (actual)
So, using his proven metric we should finish +/- 2 between 9th-13th.
That's easier said than done but his metric does take into account the efforts of other programs and their predicted finishes.
It would also constitute the highest trending median jump using his metric, of any P5 program, in the past five years dating back to the 2015 season.
Only two other programs have demonstrated similar jumps in their trends over a similar five year span in the past 15 recruiting seasons. Those two being Alabama and Clemson.
If the trend were to continue, and given an expected dip in the near future due to limited scholarships to offer, we should expect two Top 10 classes, with a possible Top 5 class, within the next three seasons and we should average a Top 12 class over the next five recruiting classes from 2019-2023 ... probably somewhere around 11.
It was an interesting presentation and all twelve squares went this morning so another board was started with the leftovers and a third will be offered if the second is filled.
Was told Bama and Georgia each have $2.5k 3x3 boards going ... and neither are closed boards. Meaning both boards can have squares go to non-fans of either program ... so there is some crossover there and no guarantee either program will finish #1 or #2 in the rankings. Matter of fact he has not disclosed his final ranking prediction yet because he says 247 has changed its metric slightly and is causing him to tweak his predicted Top 5. Evidently 247 is giving less weight to at least one network (we think it's Scout) but not bumping weight to Rivals or ESPN but rather factoring-in some other things ... offer list, camp results, grades and background, etc.
Everyone seems to really be fine-tuning their methodology.
So, with all of that said ... anyone see him missing our median and us actually finishing higher that the high end 9ish predicted? Our max is 6th. Anyone see us finishing 6th?
The DLineman I mentioned a couple of months that would be gone this Spring is gone in Aaron Thompson. Was surprised he actually made it this long. Antoine Wilder (DB) I guess should have been expected. Remember, Thompson was highly rated ... he just turned out to be a lazy kid.
What that means is that we're a couple of steps closer to dropping dead weight or non-contributors and making room for our first full class of 25 since Boom's arrival. This is pertinent because Boom has had to take a couple of consolation signees in his past few classes. This class, that will not be the case as everyone in this next class, a full class, will be coveted athletes in the eyes of the staff and support personnel grading on their metrics.
It's a fascinating process these days. Very scientific and unlike anything we've employed prior where the computer guys, the braniacs and evaluators, actually have a big say so when Boom calls them in.
With that said we had our monthly breakfast this morning. This is our group of insider guys who proctors the yearly recruiting pool we all play. It's never been something we just throw darts at, although the squares you choose are all luck-based, the actual parameters of the pool are well calculated in advance and the guy that has been running it since 2002 (he runs similar pools all over everywhere) has gotten it down to a science with the median of our pool being +/- 2 spots each of the past five years.
With that said our pools under Boom have moved from 5x5 at 11-35 in 2016 and 2017 to 3x3 at 15-23 (at a higher $ buy-in) in 2018.
This morning it was announced a $1k buy per 4x4 square at 6-17 which would not only mean our biggest payout ever but it also shifts the median way up to 11-12 ... that would be a massive median jump which trends-up from past high medians of 22.5 (U-25 2016) (O-21 2017) and 18.5 (U-19 2018).
* denotes O/U (actual)
So, using his proven metric we should finish +/- 2 between 9th-13th.
That's easier said than done but his metric does take into account the efforts of other programs and their predicted finishes.
It would also constitute the highest trending median jump using his metric, of any P5 program, in the past five years dating back to the 2015 season.
Only two other programs have demonstrated similar jumps in their trends over a similar five year span in the past 15 recruiting seasons. Those two being Alabama and Clemson.
If the trend were to continue, and given an expected dip in the near future due to limited scholarships to offer, we should expect two Top 10 classes, with a possible Top 5 class, within the next three seasons and we should average a Top 12 class over the next five recruiting classes from 2019-2023 ... probably somewhere around 11.
It was an interesting presentation and all twelve squares went this morning so another board was started with the leftovers and a third will be offered if the second is filled.
Was told Bama and Georgia each have $2.5k 3x3 boards going ... and neither are closed boards. Meaning both boards can have squares go to non-fans of either program ... so there is some crossover there and no guarantee either program will finish #1 or #2 in the rankings. Matter of fact he has not disclosed his final ranking prediction yet because he says 247 has changed its metric slightly and is causing him to tweak his predicted Top 5. Evidently 247 is giving less weight to at least one network (we think it's Scout) but not bumping weight to Rivals or ESPN but rather factoring-in some other things ... offer list, camp results, grades and background, etc.
Everyone seems to really be fine-tuning their methodology.
So, with all of that said ... anyone see him missing our median and us actually finishing higher that the high end 9ish predicted? Our max is 6th. Anyone see us finishing 6th?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 7:15 pm to scrooster
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Anyone see us finishing 6th?
I can't quite see that. We'd have to bat .1000 on all the big names we are in on to pull this. We're not quite at the Bama, Ohio St., Georgia level where we can miss out on a handful of big names because we have a handful of other big names on our list. Continued improvement on the field and with facitilities plus maintaining same effort level with recruiting and I could see us there in 2 years.
But I'm certainly not plugged in, just a view from afar.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:06 pm to scrooster
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Anyone see us finishing 6th?
No, every time ive puttogether a class on class calculator on 247 with yhe likely names we end up as as high as 10th low as 14th based on the past 3 class rrankings.
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