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The playoff picture got a bit more clear yesterday
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:25 am
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:25 am
The ACC and Pac12 essentially eliminated themselves from contention. If we are to assume that chalk holds from here on out we'll have:
1- UGA 13-0 SEC champ
2- OSU 12-1 Big10 champ
From there you've got IMO 3 teams that have a shot for 2 spots, and I'm not exactly sure which way the committee would lean. You'll have a 12-1 Big 12 champ (either OU or OSU), an undefeated Cincy, and an 11-1 Notre Dame whose only loss was to Cincy. If forced to guess, I would say that Cincy and the Big 12 champ would be the picks.
At any rate, we got a lot more resolution yesterday than we had the day before.
1- UGA 13-0 SEC champ
2- OSU 12-1 Big10 champ
From there you've got IMO 3 teams that have a shot for 2 spots, and I'm not exactly sure which way the committee would lean. You'll have a 12-1 Big 12 champ (either OU or OSU), an undefeated Cincy, and an 11-1 Notre Dame whose only loss was to Cincy. If forced to guess, I would say that Cincy and the Big 12 champ would be the picks.
At any rate, we got a lot more resolution yesterday than we had the day before.
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:34 am to WG_Dawg
Oklahoma State is probably getting in. Ohio State will also get in. If we beat BAMA, Cincy gets in. If we don’t beat BAMA, I think we get in over Cinci and ND.
There will be a lot of people in Cincinnati pulling for the DAWGS in the title game.
There will be a lot of people in Cincinnati pulling for the DAWGS in the title game.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:45 am to WG_Dawg
If Georgia, OSU-Michigan winner, Cincinnati, Big XII champ, Notre Dame win out:
1. Georgia
2. OSU/Michigan
3. Cincinnati
4. Big XII champ
If Bama beats Georgia, OSU-Michigan winner, Cincinnati, Big XII champ and Notre Dame win out:
1. Alabama
2. OSU-Michigan winner
3. Georgia
4. Tough call between Big XII champ and Cincy
Everything else explains itself based on the outcomes above.
Here’s all that really matters:
Beat tech and we’re in. Period.
1. Georgia
2. OSU/Michigan
3. Cincinnati
4. Big XII champ
If Bama beats Georgia, OSU-Michigan winner, Cincinnati, Big XII champ and Notre Dame win out:
1. Alabama
2. OSU-Michigan winner
3. Georgia
4. Tough call between Big XII champ and Cincy
Everything else explains itself based on the outcomes above.
Here’s all that really matters:
Beat tech and we’re in. Period.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:50 am to BranchDawg
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Beat tech and we’re in. Period.
I want to believe that, becuase I don't think there are 4 teams better than us, but it would go against all precedent set by teh committee.
Only once in 7 years has a team played in their CCG and lost and made the playoffs, and that was last year with Notre Dame. However, the team ND was competing with for that 4th spot was a 1-loss team that didn't win their division. If things play out this year like you said, we as a 1-loss non champ would be competing for a spot wiht a 1-loss P5 Champ, a 1-loss ND, and an undefeated cincy. If we're being honest the committee has never been put in that kind of situatino and honestly it's not the slam dunk people think that we'd be in.
If we want to win it all we have to beat bama, that's pretty much what it all boils down to.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:08 am to WG_Dawg
More evidence right in front of everyone’s eyes that we dont need a 12 team mini nfl playoff
Georgia vs Alabama in 2 weeks for a spot, OH St vs Michigan next week for a potential spot, Oklahoma vs OK state to stay alive for a spot, whoever wins that one plays championship for a spot, Cincy vs Houston to maybe get in (unfairly due to mob rule) etc etc
Its set up perfectly for a fun and exciting finish. But if the 12 team thing were in effect right now, most of these games are just formalities for playoff seeding. So dumb.
Georgia vs Alabama in 2 weeks for a spot, OH St vs Michigan next week for a potential spot, Oklahoma vs OK state to stay alive for a spot, whoever wins that one plays championship for a spot, Cincy vs Houston to maybe get in (unfairly due to mob rule) etc etc
Its set up perfectly for a fun and exciting finish. But if the 12 team thing were in effect right now, most of these games are just formalities for playoff seeding. So dumb.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:09 am to WG_Dawg
LOL. We are in regardless. No way in hell do they leave a 1 loss SEC runner-up UGA out over Cincy.
You are worried for nothing.
You are worried for nothing.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:12 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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LOL. We are in regardless.
I mean there's just nothing to actually point to that proves that
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No way in hell do they leave a 1 loss SEC runner-up UGA out over Cincy.
I mean, there's A WAY sure. Idk if they'll do it or not, but it wouldn't shock me.
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You are worried for nothing
I've been conditioned as a uga fan for too long to think we're going to get the benefit of the doubt that no other team in playoff history has gotten.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:13 am to WG_Dawg
I think you’re being a bit pessimistic here.
Yes it would be unprecedented, but there’s never been a team lose their conference championship game after being 12-0 and unanimous number 1 (including in the playoff committee polls) for two months. The committee has already told you what they think of Georgia.
Is there a chance we lose and miss? Yeah, but I think it would have required either the ACC or Pac-12 making it. 1-loss Notre Dame or Oklahoma/Oklahoma State isn’t getting in over one-loss Georgia. There’s already precedent for multiple teams from the same conference getting in.
At this point, the only way I see that happening is if we were to get blown out by Bama. Lose by say 17 or more points.
Maybe. Maybe not. That’s not the same as “have to”
Yes it would be unprecedented, but there’s never been a team lose their conference championship game after being 12-0 and unanimous number 1 (including in the playoff committee polls) for two months. The committee has already told you what they think of Georgia.
Is there a chance we lose and miss? Yeah, but I think it would have required either the ACC or Pac-12 making it. 1-loss Notre Dame or Oklahoma/Oklahoma State isn’t getting in over one-loss Georgia. There’s already precedent for multiple teams from the same conference getting in.
At this point, the only way I see that happening is if we were to get blown out by Bama. Lose by say 17 or more points.
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If we want to win it all we have to beat bama
Maybe. Maybe not. That’s not the same as “have to”
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:13 am to Jefferson Dawg
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More evidence right in front of everyone’s eyes that we dont need a 12 team mini nfl playoff
12 is so fricking dumb. It's only about money of course, we all could see this coming as soon as they announced a 4 team playoff from the get go, you knew it'd expand eventually. Seeing a 3-loss team ranked 12th get slaughtered by the #1 seed accomplishes absolutely nothing.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:15 am to WG_Dawg
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I've been conditioned as a uga fan for too long to think we're going to get the benefit of the doubt that no other team in playoff history has gotten.
Time for that line of thinking to end. Curses don't exist. And there is no conspiracy against UGA.
It comes off as weak-minded.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:16 am to BranchDawg
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I think you’re being a bit pessimistic here.
i think I'm being a realist. I'm simply going by the 7 years of actual hard data we have on the subject, nothing more.
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Yes it would be unprecedented, but there’s never been a team lose their conference championship game after being 12-0 and unanimous number 1 (including in the playoff committee polls) for two months. The committee has already told you what they think of Georgia.
Not exaclty, but it was only 12 months ago that Notre Dame was undefeated and lost in their CCG, and as stated they only remained int eh playoffs because of the resume of the team they were competing for for the 4th spot. That is not comparable to what this year's situation would be.
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1-loss Notre Dame or Oklahoma/Oklahoma State isn’t getting in over one-loss Georgia.
I don't know how you can look at the actual data and say that so confidently. A 1-loss P5 champ would, on paper, have a much better resume than us and the committee goes on resumes, not "eye tests".
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:21 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Time for that line of thinking to end. Curses don't exist. And there is no conspiracy against UGA.
It comes off as weak-minded.
I don't believe I mentioned anythign about a curse, did i? I said that literally no team in history would get the advantage that we would in this scenario, which is cause for skepticism. I don't think that's a far fetched take.
And I'm the one saying if we want to win it all we need to beat bama and get that monkey off our back, I don't see how that's weak minded, compared to the line of thinking that we should still be able to have a rematch and play them again if we lose.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:22 am to Dawgfan77
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Oklahoma State is probably getting in. Ohio State will also get in. If we beat BAMA, Cincy gets in. If we don’t beat BAMA, I think we get in over Cinci and ND.
This is how I see it as well.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:22 am to WG_Dawg
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it was only 12 months ago that Notre Dame was undefeated and lost in their CCG, and as stated they only remained int eh playoffs because of the resume of the team they were competing for for the 4th spot.
Look at the resumes of who we’d be competing for for the fourth spot. Oklahoma was never higher than 8th even when undefeated and they’re currently 13th.
Notre Dame doesn’t have a schedule close to Georgia’s and certainly not once you factor in the Alabama matchup. We would have a better loss and two wins comparable to their best win, which is Wisconsin.
I think you’ve been beaten down over the years and are now reaching to find some reason what’s happening can’t actually be happening.
It’s happening buddy.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:26 am to WG_Dawg
You are trying to convince yourself that Georgia is going to be left out if we lose to Bama, when all signs say otherwise. The committee would lose all credibility if they leave UGA out after say, a one score loss to Bama. That ain't happening.
UGA is a lock. The ONLY way they could be left out is if Bama blows us out of MBS. Again, that ain't happening. Georgia is in the playoff.
UGA is a lock. The ONLY way they could be left out is if Bama blows us out of MBS. Again, that ain't happening. Georgia is in the playoff.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:29 am to BranchDawg
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Look at the resumes of who we’d be competing for for the fourth spot
Uh, I am. We would be a 1-loss non-champion. Competing against a 1-loss Big 12 champ, an undefeated cincy, and a 1-loss ND. We don't really stand out above the pack there on paper.
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I think you’ve been beaten down over the years and are now reaching to find some reason what’s happening can’t actually be happening.
I am going by factual data. Actual black and white results that have happened, in real life, for us to see. You are going by feelings and what you THINK might happen.
I'm not saying we WON'T get in wiht a bama loss, I'm just pointing out why it's not a slam dunk. Being "beaten down" has nothing to do with looking at actual results and forming thoughts based on it. And what's funny is if the worst case scenario does play out, I will at least have halfway expected it all along while people like you and steelers are going to be the ones skyscreaming the loudest about conspiracies and foul play.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:30 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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UGA is a lock.
I mean there is, LITERALLY, nothing in history that would point to this being the case. But I appreciate your optimism.
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:38 am to WG_Dawg
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And what's funny is if the worst case scenario does play out, I will at least have halfway expected it all along while people like you and steelers are going to be the ones skyscreaming the loudest about conspiracies and foul play.
And there it is
The crown jewel of the pessimist mentality. The ability to claim moral high ground if their dreams are crushed.
I know it because I have been guilty of it many times before.
I don’t believe in conspiracies or foul play and I won’t if the scenario you laid out happens. You claim there is NO precedent for a 1-loss conference championship loser to get into the postseason and then proceed to bring up in every post how Notre Dame got in despite being in literally the exact same position just last year.
The playoff committee thinks Georgia’s the best team in the country. If we fell to #3 this week, I might agree with you, but that’s not going to happen. They’re not going to drop Georgia four spots if they lose by one possession to #2 or #3. Look at what just happened to Michigan and Michigan State. Michigan lost and barely dropped an inch.
You’re discrediting any precedents that might favor UGA getting in as invalid and using any examples that favor UGA being left out as “hard facts”. That’s a pessimist spin, plain and simple.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:43 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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one score loss to Bama
All of our CFP/SECCG losses have been one score
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:49 am to WG_Dawg
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Big 12 champ
If OU wins, they ain't making the playoff. Okie St.will make the playoff if they win out, probably as the 4 seed.
But aside from that, the Big-12 sucks.
UGA is in, bud. Don't worry.
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