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re: Can Harsin fix Nix or does he look for a transfer?

Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:23 pm to
Uhm, I would rather have that 2020 group that features two receivers who are likely to be drafted (Seth and Schwartz) vs. just Slayton in 2017. Is that even a serious question? NCM and Kyle Davis did basically nothing at Auburn. Either way, the talent different there is negligible. Are we arguing that 150 pound Will Hastings was a difference maker?

The second part about "leadership" is where I KNOW you guys are just looking at the last name and making up your own conclusion. What has Bo Nix actually led this team to?? This offense has been below average in both of the seasons he has been here. It was COMPLETELY dysfunctional this season. He doesn't even look that well-liked by the team and earlier in this season got into a pissing match with his best receiver. He also got into it with the OC on the sideline. I've seen MULTIPLE people state that they notice Nix sitting alone on the sideline and getting very little congratulation from his teammates when he actually does make a play. Playing with your hair on fire doesn't make you a leader; if anything I'm sure his teammates were pretty frustrated watching him try to do his own thing like Manziel on every other play. You think that Stidham was "careless with the football" and yet I've literally seen Bo Nix just blindly throw the ball up into the air on multiple occasions as he was being tackled outside the pocket. In the Northwestern game he tried to hurdle a guy standing straight up. In every game this season he has at least one play that qualifies as trying to do way too much which leads to an incredibly dangerous decision, so it sounds to me like you're watching one guy with a completely different set of glasses LMAO. If he was such a natural leader, how does Alec Jackson go into the Bowl game and make like 3 false start penalties?? You're literally over here telling me that because the QB runs around like an idiot and takes hits and "plays hard", that this makes him a "leader". Its the most basic analysis of "leadership" possible. What, because Stidham smiles it means that he's not a leader?

The entirety of Bo Nix's career here can be summed up by one thing: giving a kid uncredited praise for things that he actually hasn't earned at all on the field. Oh he's an A++ football leader - nevermind the fact that the offense under him looks completely broken and discombobulated and the coach was fired as a result of it. Oh he has "elite arm talent" - nevermind the fact that he struggles to complete passes at every level of the field, and literally had a whopping 12 touchdown passes this season LMAO. He literally has 28 touchdown passes in 24 games played. That is as pedestrian as it gets.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:55 pm to
Also, a fun look at the numbers:

Sean White as a Sophomore in 2016:
63.9% completion percentage, 8.1 yards per attempt, 8.3 adjusted yards per attempt, 143.1 pass efficiency rating.
9 touchdown passes to 3 interceptions
4.33 TD/Attempt % (9 touchdowns in 208 attempts)

Bo Nix as a Sophomore in 2020:
59.9% completion percentage, 6.8 yards per attempt, 6.6 adjusted yards per attempt, 123.9 pass efficiency rating.
12 touchdown passes to 7 interceptions
3.36 TD/Attempt % (12 touchdowns in 357 attempts)

Bo Nix is literally less productive than Sean White was, and his receiving core is definitely better. White played with the same shitty OL pass blocking. White also played hard as hell and took an absolute beating, and I don't remember anyone giving him a free pass for anything because of that reason. I also don't remember anyone ball-washing Sean White about being a 1st round draft pick after that season, and it can be argued that White had all of the same "talent" as he in fact beat out Desean Watson for the MVP award at the Elite 11.

This is where the nepotism with Bo Nix is so obviously apparent. He is as big if not a bigger failure (to date) than the guys who failed before him, and yet he seemingly gets an infinite leash. He even gets less flack for some of the exact same flaws that the other guys showed, for example Stidham overthrowing open deep passes - which Bo Nix does just as often but with less scrutiny. Despite the fact that Stidham actually made considerably more plays, produced a considerably better offense, and actually won more games.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 12:56 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7986 posts
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:57 pm to
How do you people keep forgetting that this season was an all P5 schedule without 3 games to pad the stats?

Stidham, 2018 vs P5:
61% completion percentage
226 YPG passing
2.2 YPG rushing
1.4 Total TD per game
61 pass attempts per interception

Nix, 2020
60% completion percentage
220 YPG passing
35 YPG rushing
1.7 Total TD per game
51 pass attempts per interception

It's a broken system and has been for quite some time. It's not designed to make any QB look good.
Stidham was a more accurate passer but took wayyyy too many sacks.

I do agree that Nix doesn't seem like a guy the NFL would be very interested in even if he does make some improvements at the margins.. but I do think he can be a very good college QB in a system that isn't broken.


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