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re: Zues

Posted on 11/4/20 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27308 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 3:29 pm to
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talking about the first down marker...not yards

Went over in a previous post.OF COURSE you look for it whenever possible.You actually think it's an easy thing to do between hash marks? I'll say it again,he doesn't have yellow line in front of him.

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Players are people and get into bad habits


But that's not a "habit" he has.
He would never see the field for a P5 team if he had a "habit" of "falling down" on the "first time"someone touches him.Its just
a incorrect narrative even if you insist its "true" I will say he did have some issues with his ankle and it did affect his balance and cutting last year.


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I see a huge difference.
I don't.I see a guy who healthy for the first time since probably '18 and a OC that's getting the ball to em in space.

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He doesn't every time, and I never mean to insinuate that he does every time. he does it a lot


He we go again. He obviously doesn't have the same style or build as Zeus or Milton and will try to make defenders miss em as opposed to running through em. It does make it a little easier to defend em between the tackles.

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That's fine. We typically agree on a lot of stuff, but when we disagree we seem to disagree big.



Is what it is but let's hope he 100% Saturday because we'll need em especially on 3rd downs.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58984 posts
Posted on 11/4/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Went over in a previous post.OF COURSE you look for it whenever possible.You actually think it's an easy thing to do between hash marks? I'll say it again,he doesn't have yellow line in front of him.


No. Maybe I am misunderstanding you or you are misunderstanding me. You find the yard line before the play starts. You KNOW exactly where yu need to go. For instance. A simple hook pattern. We usually ranthem 8-10 yards deep, but if you need 11 yards for the first down you run the pattern 11-12 yards ddep to make sure you had the first down. Ball carriers should know exactly where they need to get for a first down and then change the way they might run the ball. Look at Zamir on his touchdown run. He blasted his way prepared to be hit but lowered his head to ensure the first down. Nobody was more surprised than him that the defense didn't hit him and he was off balance. He was blasting for a first down, but when nobody hit him he scored. He stumbled and almost fell because he was going for the first down not expecting to score.

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But that's not a "habit" he has.
Carrying the ball in the wrong hand is a habit.

When you go for breaking a long run over getting the first down it is a habit. not a necessarily bad habit, unless you get hit and don't get that first down. I get it. In high school he could get away with going outside all the time and breaking a long run. In the SEC you better get that first down first then if you can break it, break it. But your priority should be:

1. First down
2. Possibly break a long run

If your team needs a first down you get the first down, you do not give a first down up to try to break one.....unless you are sure you can break it. You give up too many first downs and you will find yourself on the bench, because teams need sustained drives to score. You can't give up 4 first downs so you can add 10 extra yards to one run. A team only has so many times they control the ball. They have to maximize those possessions.

Hey. That is what I was always taught. the game has changed a lot since i played.

They used to teach us to wrap up the ball carrier, too. Today the kids want to get an ESPN highlight reel hit. They miss a lot of tackles, too. What do you think a coach does with a player who refuses to wrap up and allows the other team to gain extra yards because he wants to make a highlight reel.

One of the things they struggled teaching Pickens is he always wanted to make the one handed catches and would drop some balls. Stuff like that won't be tolerated at the SEC level for a long time.


Again. Just my opinion, and what I have observed. You seem certain you are right. maybe you are. You have an opinion, and i have an opinion.



Tell you what....We could go on and on and I won't convince you I am right and you won't convince me that you are right.


I'll give you last say, then we can drop this. I won't rebut......you're up!
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