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he doesn't he doesn't need to be out there. Even in High School it was drummed in our heads to know how far you need to get for a first down. That is rule #1.

I'm not talking yards, I'm talking the precise line for the first down. He doesn't see what you see from your couch. it's a completely different perspective.

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Doesn't mean it is a good habit

Habit? It's how he runs and it's paid off more often than.Id love to see the stats on when this actually happens just like the "falling on the first hit narrative" I think your perception as turned into reality for you.

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Do you honestly believe they do everything well and correctly?

Of course not but that's not the discussion.Every RB who has ever played can do things better.There
hasn't been some dramatic change in his "power running game." Monken is getting him out in spaces and he's also healthy for the first time in a while since he's been here.

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Everybody knows he has talent

IDK about that.Did you look at the posts about em this off season? Folks on here all but gave up on 'em and more than one said he should never take a snap again.

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Sorry it offends you that I point it out

Nothing "offends" me at all.Its just a lazy narrative.You wanna show me YAC stats that show me "he goes down on first contact" I'll be glad to look at the numbers compared to our other RB's

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months....or we can just disagree and leave it alone.

You made the detailed response thread and we can disagree.Its what this place is about.

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Posted by DawgsLife

Member since Jun 2013

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Posted on 11/4/20 at 1:57 pm to RD Dawg

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I'm not talking yards, I'm talking the precise line for the first down. He doesn't see what you see from your couch. it's a completely different perspective.

i am talking about the first down marker...not yards. That was a baisc thing. "Always know where the first down marker is!" was preached to us over and over again.

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Habit? It's how he runs and it's paid off more often than.Id love to see the stats on when this actually happens just like the "falling on the first hit narrative" I think your perception as turned into reality for you.

Players are people and get into bad habits. It doesn't matter that it is your style, there are certain things you do to protect the ball, etc. for instance he used to be in the habit of carrying the ball in his right hand all the time. (I have not noticed or watched to see if he has been doing it this year) Runners should always carry the ball in the hand that is nearest the sideline when running near the sideline. If the ball gets ripped or your arm gets hit the ball is more likely to go out of bounds. Little things like that make a big difference.

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hasn't been some dramatic change in his "power running game."

Again, we will have to agree to disagree. I see a huge difference.

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IDK about that.Did you look at the posts about em this off season? Folks on here all but gave up on 'em and more than one said he should never take a snap again.

More than one said he should not take another snap? Then they are wrong. He's talented. And I do agree with you that he had not been used properly for his skills. He is more of a pass catch and get the ball in space type of players. The catch and run at Alabama showed what he is capable of.

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Its just a lazy narrative

Not when it is true.

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"he goes down on first contact"

He doesn't every time, and I never mean to insinuate that he does every time. he does it a lot. A lot more than he should. I went back and watched some of his carries against a couple of teams and saw him break some runs and saw him go down easier than he should on some.

I think most of us have seen Chubb and Swift and Gurley and how they finish runs and that just seemed to be missing from him. Part of that is because he was given the ball to run up the middle and that is not what he excells in. But...why isn't that a part of his game? because he does not run with a lot of power.